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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 11:15 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 9:08 p.m.
Thread: Kreider Wowzers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>According to Dreger: "The Isles definitely among the suitors. Can’t imagine the NYR make that deal unless it’s an offer they simply have to accept. Door to staying with the Rangers and extending isn’t closed."

Would think something like
1. 2020 1st
2. Wahlstrom
3. 1 of Koivula or Bellows

gets it done. Isles won't want to do it. But as Dreger said, Rangers won't make the trade unless they're absolutely blown away, and considering the Coleman, Zucker and Toffoli deals, this is what it will probably take.</div></div>

Toffoli got a 2nd rounder, a B level prospect and a 4th liner. Here kreider is getting a 1st, a B level prospect, and a 21 year old who is ready for the NHL right now. Wahlstrom isnt being traded for a rental fringe first liner, hes not Mark Stone.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 9:52 p.m.
Thread: Kreider Wowzers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Widowmaker</b></div><div>Seravalli reported that weeks ago. Since then, Vancouver and Tampa gave up top 3 prospects in their organizations for lesser players than Kreider. Kreider has also been scoring a point a night for the last few weeks. Do you think Gorton asked for Lemieux last year as his first choice? No way. Negotiations start high and both sides give until there’s a deal. The market has favored sellers so far so it’s not unreasonable at all to suggest the return is better than originally expected. Nobody asked for Newhook here so what do you care?</div></div>

what Tampa did, they admitted they over paid...and what Vancouver did is less than what you are trying to claim Kreider is for. A lot of ranger fans are going to be very disappointed when (if) he is traded bc the market for Kreider is drying up day by day with teams moving on to other options and their ability to crate a "bidding war" wont yield all these prize building blocks.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 18, 2020 at 9:35 p.m.
Thread: Kreider Wowzers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>Madden a B prospect?

Madden has literally been the best prospect traded this year amongst Addison and Foote. He's 40th in the league according to Pronman as of January, and is dominating the NCAA - putting up better numbers than Zegras in the same conference. I mean c'mon man, if you don't know your stuff don't comment.

So basically, this trade is the Toffoli deal but changing a 2nd for a 1st because Kreider is better and adding another prospect because it's trading intra division, and we haven't really gotten to the extension....</div></div>

And Wahlstrom was 20th. So kreider is worth a first an A prospect AND a 21 year old NHL forward?? So no it's not swapping a 2nd for a first and adding another prospect. A rental is not going to get an A prospect unless its a legit first liner like Stone with an extension in place.