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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2018 at 10:26 a.m.
Thread: Actually Realistic
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ScottRoth</b></div><div>Namestikov had 4 points in 19 games with the rangers and outside of handing the puck to two of the best forwards in the world he has never produced anywhere near a top 6 level. Ryan Spooner is a solid PP guy who has offensive ability but is a liability in the defensive zone.</div></div>

Fine. Then we'll keep them. I don't share your assessment, though.

"Namestnikov did not produce ? Oh then he's worth nothing. Spooner did produce? Oh but he's bad in the defensive zone, so he's worth nothing."

Acknowledge the circumstances they were in: NYR were a dumpster fire, and Namestnikov had constantly different linemates, often playing in the 4th line. His transition game was one of the best in the NHL when he was in Tampa. Let's see what he does with a new coach.

If the price is not right, NYR can afford to wait on them to maximize return or not trade them at all.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 6, 2018 at 10:05 a.m.
Thread: Draft Day (ARI, MIN, FLA, CBJ)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bloodykisame</b></div><div>namestikov can fetch a mid 1st rounder and probs a 3rd, that is a heavy overpay for moving up 4 spots in the draft maybe if that was boston/tb and a 3rd for the 5th pick it would be acceptable but not the 9th and another 1st.</div></div>

If you are interested, a sports analyst created in 2016 a draft pick value chart. The late 1st +3rd make up the difference (and a very slight overpayment) between 5th and 9th. The player you get at 5 is much better (probably) than what you get at 9th (hence the difference in value). This is the link:

<a href="http://statsportsconsulting.com/main/wp-content/uploads/DraftPickValueChart2016_Schuckers.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://statsportsconsulting.com/main/wp-content/uploads/DraftPickValueChart2016_Schuckers.pdf</a>
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 2, 2018 at 9:27 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 20, 2018 at 3:56 p.m.
Thread: NYR Fans what do you think??
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBoyDuddus</b></div><div>Dahlen's been in Vancouver for over a year. And I don't like the chances of Dorion giving up a top tier prospect for a middle 6 forward like Spooner.</div></div>

Woooops at Dahlen. I guess I never processed that trade. While he and Brown are clear cut top tier prospects, is Formenton too? I don't see it (he was exactly PPG in the OHL in his D+1 season, which is pretty good but not great). And while you may see all of them becoming better than Spooner, hockey players who are in their peak now are worth more than a player who, in his peak, will have his same ability but is a few years away. That's why you pay interest if you take a credit. That is to say, readiness is at a premium over potential.

So even though Spooner is not worth Brown, I don't think he is far from Formenton.