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Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 4:40 p.m.
Thread: 24-25 Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cooperr</b></div><div>1. Flames got about the same for Hanifin
2. Yes, salary dump
3. A bit optimistic, could easily be changed to 4th or 5th
4. Also optimistic. I dont think Evangelista is going to be a 100 point player though. Preds need scoring
5. I dont think the Hawks would give anything up to bring back Kampf.
6. Woll is the guy when he is healthy. Goalie market is so thin and I definitely dont want Samsonov back
7. Hes literally on the 4th line in Carolina
8. They almost made the team last year. They have to play eventually
9. Robertson will be a 20 goal scorer someday on a different team. 2.5 is not crazy at all.</div></div>

1) Andersson is much better and significantly younger with terms on his contract as opposed to Hanifin who resigned with the Knights afterward. Plus the going rate at the deadline was cheaper than market value. If you don't believe me then look at all the deals from the Trade Deadline
2) Jarnkrok gets way more than a 6th in return LOL thats a terrible trade and we don't need his cap flipped. he's on a great deal and is productive
3) Fair
4) I think he can be an 85-90 point guy easily and he's still only 22. He doesn't get moved. 39pts in 80 games as a 22-year-old is a good production, he could easily jump to 40-50 next season
5) He is a capable player with a huge defensive upside. The contract is a bit pricey but the Hawks can afford it. He also has a decent offensive upside given the role that he is given, plus he is a face off merchant
6) The issue is that if he gets injured then the Leafs are screwed... he could also have a poor stretch like he did last year and then you have garbage to back him up. Hildeby is not ready so don't play him it could hurt his development. He also hasn't proven that he can carry a massive load of games like 50-65
7) He put up 37 points and you're paying him almost 3M. If he is on the 4th line that would be absurd. He is in Carolina but he is only making 762K so it's not as bad. Also Carolina has much better depth than the Leafs
8) Yes sure maybe a 1-2 game stint but full time? Definitely not, they're not proven and you have not signed any back-up forwards in case they struggle. It only hurts development if that happens
9) Robertson isn't even put onto the lines you set lol, there is no room for him at 2.5M, and sure maybe someday but he will always be a 3rd liner. He likely gets a short-term deal at around 1.1M-1.3M to see if he can improve or recreate his previous season
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 8:27 p.m.
Thread: Start Fresh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>No, that's where YOU are wrong. JT is not worth $11m.....that's plain and simple full stop period. 25 goals and 65 points does not justify a $11M cap hit, nor do many teams have $11M to spend against the cap. Nobody is giving the Leafs a 2nd round pick for 65 points at a $11M cap hit. Nobody is paying for that</div></div>

Nobody said that he is worth 11M dude. He had a down year and I wouldn't be surprised if he had a jump in points next season at all. He gets a 2nd minimum in return based solely on the impact and presence that he brings to teams with decent numbers too (for his contract it's definitely below what he should be putting up, but the points he does get plus his impact/presence gives you at least a 2nd round pick)
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 8:17 p.m.
Thread: marner obviously
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canuckfan98</b></div><div>idk how much Edmunson gets but if he gets priced out than they can sign Lyubushkin. Also if Montour wants 7 then we can send Reaves down or trade him and give the remaining money to Montour. Although I think you can get him down to 6.5 or 6.75.

As for the Hawks I don't see them sending out draft capital for Tavares as they could just trade Hall since imo he is unlikely to re-sign since he probably still wants to win a cup or at least play in the playoffs. That's why he took a discount to sign in Boston in the first place. Also Chicago seems like a place where Tavares would be willing to re-sign and Chicago would probably would want to as well.</div></div>

The whole point of moving Tavares is for the cap space. We don't really need the asset, I'd rather get the cap and have that for targeting specific needs and draft picks is more reasonable and easier to do than a player.

Edmundson currently makes 3.5M He's probably going to get 3.5-4.5M. I could see Montour taking less but not for the leafs and I would like Lyubushkin back for sure
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 8:12 p.m.
Thread: JT Out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>His 11m contract would make him very hard to move. If anything the Leafs would need to pay to get rid of him. But i see this scenario with Chicago making perfect sense for both sides.

Fair enough on the Ottawa trade.

I doubt Edmundson gets that much but time will tell.

I think Bert is going to have to settle for less money than last year. His performance this year doesn't justify it. Best case for him is that he gets another 5.5m contract. I personally would love to have him back.

Time will tell though. I am not the best with UFA contracts.</div></div>

Tavares is the perfect mentor for Bedard, they have the cap space for him, and he only has 1 year left. I don't see a situation where Tavares gets no draft capital in return

Edmunson was making 3.5M last season, I don't see him taking a pay cut. He deserves a raise easily

I disagree but time will tell. Bert picked up his game later in the season and proved the kind of player that he is. He wants a lengthy extension but idk if 5M is enough for him

I definitely would love him back I just hope that he is forced to settle for a 2-3 year deal for 5.5M or 6M but I have a feeling that there is going to be a deal out there for him not in Toronto that he jumps on unfortunately
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 7:28 p.m.
Thread: Get up off the floor leafers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PantsOffnJacket</b></div><div>If the leafs medical team fix Laine up like they can and he's putting up a point/game like he can then 8.7 is a lot better then 11M+.
Elvis is absolutely worth his contract but he needs better coached team in front of him then the jackets have had the past 2 years.

Domi gives a lower cap for contract length.

Steeves or ceulemans can be sent down.</div></div>

If I were the Leafs organization though I wouldn't take that risk with all the pressure surrounding playoff success. It's way too big of a risk with a pricey player

Domi played well, he would want 4M easily even if it is for 1 year

If they are sent down though then you have 0 scratches and are doomed if someone were to get hurt (also the waiver wire would kick your ass)
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 7:11 p.m.
Thread: Start Fresh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Hawks aren't going to pay anything for JT. Best it gets for the Leafs: if Tavares will waive, Leafs pay him his $7m signing bonus on 7/1. Then on 7/2 trade him to the Hawks for future considerations. Hawks would probably take on the cap hit if the Leafs are actually paying most of JT's salary. If that deal doesn't work for you and Brad, the discussion is over.</div></div>

First off, you're not the Hawks LOL. Secondly, it's not a big price to pay... you're making such a big deal about this, it's what Tavares is worth I don't see how the Blackhawks don't trade one of their 5 2nd round picks that they have in the next 2 seasons.

Future considerations? You're hilarious but this isn't April 1st. He gets picks in return from anyone he is traded to. You're making it seem like he's on an 8-year deal with this contract when he only has the 1 year left
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 7:02 p.m.
Thread: Start Fresh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>It is absolutely deniable it's flat out false. Valincourt was on Real Kyper and Bourne last week talking about goalies and stuff. He runs a company that tracks goalies in ways no one else is right now and is basically the authority on goalie performance from an analytical standpoint.

By every measure, Woll was better than Samsonov this season. Down the stretch as well where Woll did have a couple of bad games but was hung out to dry a lot. He also got way harder assignments than Samsonov did. Samsonov got wins but the team scored a bunch in front of him.

Woll would have been the 1 all season had he not sprained his ankle. He needs to stay healthy but he's absolutely a #1. He's a legit playoff guy as well. He doesn't allow bad goals. He's number 1 next year.</div></div>

He was not better down the stretch by any means LMAO that's an egregious take.

Samsonov's last 10 regular season games: 6W-2L-2OTL with a 0.896

Woll's last 10 regular season games: 4W-6L with a 0.890 save %

I'm not saying that Samsonov was the better goalie the entire year, that would be stupid. Clearly, Woll was better for a good period of the year but my worry is that he goes back to those poor stats and we are left with the 2-3M goalie that we signed as a meh backup to become the starting goalie because he couldn't cut it... It's about covering their ass and having Saros would be significantly better for a number of reasons that I've already listed in previous responses. Woll is a good goalie and a great goalie at times, we've seen him be an amazing playoff goalie and I'm not worried about that. The worry is not making playoffs or having another injury. Saros is the better goalie between the 2 and I don't think it's close. Having him would significantly make the leafs better and it would help Woll develop and give him a goalie that would give him an actual competition for the starting job
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 6:48 p.m.
Thread: Start Fresh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Well right back at 'ya regarding your hockey knowledge. I'm not debating JT's abilities or what his value might or might not be. If someone wants to give the Leafs a 2nd +, the Leafs should take that offer.

What I'm saying is it won't be the Hawks. They are looking to improve their roster. But they aren't going to be buyers. They aren't spending valuable draft assets for a one year rental that gives another team $11m in cap space. The Hawks have Taylor Hall and Nick Foligno, who did a great job mentoring Bedard this past season. And they have Yanic Perrault, a highly regarded developmental coach who Bedard has been very complimentary of. Your assumption that the Hawks even want a veteran C to mentor Bedard is based on nothing but your personal feeling that Taveras is this "must have" player for the Hawks.

How about a guy like Sean Monahan to mentor Bedard? All he costs is $.

Bottom line is, if the price on Tavares is a 2nd +, the Hawks won't be in on him.</div></div>

Hall and Foligno aren't going to teach him the defensive responsibilities that Tavares can especially with them not being centers (Foligno is not always a center). I disagree, I think it's well worth Chicago's while to give up a 2nd round pick and a later-on pick that usually never hits anyway for a guy like JT. The Hawks have 7 picks in the first 3 rounds of this draft and about that many for next season too. They can easily afford to give one up to benefit Bedard's growth since he's going to be the foundation of this team. Also, Tavares does better on their team, and giving up a 2nd does not turn them into buyers. Teams that are rebuilding can acquire players too... that's allowed lol.

Bedard is a franchise player on a team full of essentially nobodies. I'm not doubting the ability of the development coach or Hall/Foligno but you have to agree that Tavares is much more capable of mentoring and developing him than those 2 guys.

Monahan is honestly a decent name for you to throw out but I'd say that he has relatively similar mentorship skills as Hall/Foligno. Tavares took Matthews under his wing when he was a rookie and helped him alongside Thornton. Also while Chicago may try to go for Monahan I don't know if he would bite at a Chicago contract but I guess we will have to wait and see.

PS: if you think Monahan doesn't want near the 8-9 million dollar mark then you'd be wrong. I stick by my vision of Tavares being the mentor for this franchise player as he was for Matthews. If you don't see that Tavares is an amazing fit for Chicago then you're the one that is being blinded by your assumptions.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 6:03 p.m.
Thread: Start Fresh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>So long as Woll remains healthy, he gets 50 starts next year. He's absolutely a good starter. Without question. He has proved it with his insane performance in games 5 and 6. You need a safety net for sure, but I think you can find 20-30 quality starts without wasting all these assets for a guy who's been pedestrian for the past couple of years.</div></div>

Where I find the problem lies is that when Samsonov was healthy again in the 2nd half of the season we saw a version of Woll that was undeniably horrible. That may happen again so it is much better to get a guy like Saros to lead him into the Starter role because Woll still is only 25 so tons of time to grow. It's an accustomed thing for goalies to be introduced to the net by another goalie rather than just throwing him in. It's also nice to have a guy like Saros who has proven he can carry a load, it would be interesting to see him get some games off for Woll to play so that they both can stay relatively healthy. This also brings good competition in the net rather than him being the sole starter and having a question mark goalie as a backup that would need to take the ranks.