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Forum: NHL SigningsOct. 12, 2022 at 10:40 a.m.
Forum: NHL SigningsSep. 8, 2022 at 12:02 p.m.
Forum: NHL SigningsSep. 7, 2022 at 10:43 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Svechnikov: 8 x $7.75 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/507432">97% say good deal</a>
Connor: 7 x $7.14 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/274393">95% say good deal</a>
Kucherov: 8 x $9.5 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/154370">93% say good deal</a>
M. Tkachuk: 8 x $9.5 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/622525">86% say good deal</a>
Seguin: 8 x $9.85 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/167829">85% say good deal</a>
Nugent-Hopkins: 8 x $5.13 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/471343">85% say good deal</a>
McDavid: 8 x $12.5 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/78157">81% say good deal</a>
Duchene: 7 x $8.0 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/245886">78% say good deal</a>
Fiala: 7 x $7.88 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/604128">75% say good deal</a>
Eriksson Ek: 8 x $5.25 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/473055">71% say good deal</a>
Suzuki: 8 x $7.88 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/520162">70% say good deal</a>
Eichel: 8 x $10.0 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/94096">70% say good deal</a>
Tavares: 7 x $11.0 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/154370">68% say good deal</a>
Norris: 8 x $7.95 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/616251">65% say good deal</a>
Draisaitl: 8 x $8.5 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/87401">63% say good deal</a>
Stone: 8 x $9.5 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/208109">63% say good deal</a>
<strong>Stützle: 8 x $8.35 million</strong>...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/637162">62% say good deal</a>
Hischier: 7 x $7.25 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/278358">59% say good deal</a>
Johansen: 8 x $8.0 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/83826">59% say good deal</a>
Keller: 8 x $7.15 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/267820">58% say good deal</a>
Lee: 7 x $7.0 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/245964">58% say good deal</a>
Thomas: 8 x $8.13 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/614524">51% say good deal</a>
Hughes: 8 x $8.00 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/533230">49% say good deal</a>
B. Tkachuk: 7 x $8.21 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/520835">39% say good deal</a>
Kuznetsov: 8 x $7.8 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/76840">39% say good deal</a>
Tage: 7 x $7.14 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/635399">34% say good deal</a>
Hertl: 8 x $8.14 million...<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/567076">26% say good deal</a>


Explain that pattern to me</div></div>

The pattern I see is teams are trying to start locking up talent long term early earlier, less bridges.

Year signed and position would be important columns to add to this. I would prefer a 1-5 rating on the deal (but thats a capfriendly issue) and also users should need to select their favourite team to see if there is a Leafs factor in some deals when they start looking at their overpays that have caused them to lose players and become less competitive year after year.

Another add could be the contracts being rated each year, people are rating this contact, but it only comes into play next year. The contract is going to look like the 6.5 mill Karlsson Contract in time.
Forum: NHL SigningsJul. 28, 2022 at 10:43 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>budgeteam</b></div><div>-Senators trade Connor Brown 4M per to WSH for 2024 2nd Round Pick
-Senators extend Mathieu Joseph. He will make 2.5M in 2022-23.
-Joseph will play the same role as Brown for 1.5M less in 2022-23.
-That role is top matchup/defensive winger, and top unit PK time. Occasional fill in on top 2 lines. Expect 30 points and 18 minutes a night with tough d-zone deployment.

That's basically what this is about. The Senators are spending in the mid 70 millions in real cash.

The Senators are at about 72 million in real money spent with a 19 player roster. If the Senators find their mythical top 4D, this trade points to Formenton being part of the package that gets him. Formenton will get something similar to Kakko, 2 years at 2.XX million. Which means he will make around 1.5-2.0 million in year 1. Brannstrom will either sign his qualifying offer, or get 2 years at around 1.5 million. Either way, he ends up making about 1 million next year since a 2 year deal would be backloaded. Senators also need to give up assets to dump Zaitsev and his 2M base salary.

I don't remember the exact number their budget was confirmed at, it might have been 74 million. Chychrun makes 4 million this season, Weegar makes 4.75 million, Klingberg is probably asking for something in the 4 million range. You do the math. Unless the Senators budget is higher than previously reported, Formenton+Zaitsev will go out in either a trade or a series of trades to add the top 4D. Or, they will keep the roster as is right now with the exception of Formenton and Brannstrom signed to bridge deals or their qualifying offers.

For example, if they sign Klingberg, it wouldn't surprise mt to see Formenton as the sweetener for a team to take Zaitsev. If they trade for Chychrun, Formenton+Zaitsev will both be in the deal, along with the assets for Chychrun. Same deal with Weegar or whoever else. That's my theory....</div></div>

No need to use Formenton as a sweetener. It was floated that Chicago would take Zeitsef and a 2nd round pick which is what Brown was traded for (https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Kevin-Francis/UPDATED-5pm-EST---Klingberg-rumours-to-Ottawa/294/118112). Signing the King Klingberg with the space will make for a very fun team to watch hopefully into the warm months and through another southern ontario opponent giving them another first round exit :).