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NHL
Jul. 22, 2022 at 11:18 p.m.
Thread:
Team Canada Scandal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldHabsFan61</b></div><div>If we are banned from international hockey I will never watch an international hockey game again and it will be the end of Canadian hockey at a national team level. Punishing kids who are playing hockey right now for the actions of past and present adults is beyond disgusting and has no place even being mentioned as a possibility. Likewise we need a presumption of innocence until we have facts about what happened regarding former or current players. The bordering on slanderous comments from some people about these players is dangerous groupthink and hive mentality. It needs to be shut down</div></div>
I would be lying if I said I was shocked it took us to six posts for someone to make this about themselves in a completely irrelevant context.
Removing Hockey Canada from international events has far less to do with punishing the kids of today and tomorrow than it does punishing a state-funded organization that's maintained at least a solid 15-year stretch of sexual abuse cover-ups. Firing and blacklisting officials and members of Hockey Canada is mere lip service. What inspires genuine change? When Sheldon Kennedy was abused and spoke up, we said never again. When Dan Carcillo was abused and spoke up, we said never again. When Akim Aliu was abused and spoke up, we said never again. When Kyle Beach was abused and spoke up, we said never again.
If the report of "at least one per year" is remotely accurate, then I believe it vile that your primary concern regarding this scandal is that Canada may not be represented in IIHF-sanctioned events and not that lives have likely been destroyed by the inhuman actions of boys that think themselves entitled to whatever they please and the subsequent slush-fund enabled cover-ups from the body that oversees hockey at the highest level in Canada. While a settlement is not a legal admission of guilt, you would expect such a prominent organization to at least contest a charge as libel if there truly was no fault. Context is king here. The moderation team here has done as much as they've can - often on no notice as the story unfolds - to minimize rampant speculation. There shall be no internet sleuths here.
I doubt the world nor the victims of these abuses are bothered at all if you abstain from watching international play should Hockey Canada find itself slapped with a ban. Hockey Canada should crumble and if the IIHF decided to ban Canada from any sanctioned events until that happens, I think the sport is a better place for it. These are unforgivable actions. It is morally bankrupt to allow an entity like Hockey Canada to continue existing in the wake of the pending investigations. The registration fees that my parents paid, you may have paid, your neighbours, your family, your friends, any Canadian has paid to put their children through this sport of ours has been silently enabling unspeakable acts of violence. At what point does human decency start to take precedence over the "sanctity" of the sport? At what point do the human beings on the receiving end of these atrocities start to matter more than a two-week tournament over the Christmas holidays?
Forum:
NHL
Jun. 29, 2022 at 10:09 p.m.
Thread:
Prospect Discussion Thread #3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>:sharks
Frank Seravalli offered. “I’ve talked to some people who have interviewed, they say [owner Hasso Plattner is] delusional. He wants this team to be competitive. There’s no retool, no rebuild.
“Right from the hop, it’s how quickly can we make it back to the playoffs right now? What moves can you make this summer to get us there?
“That’s actually what scared a bunch of people off from the position.”
San Jose Hockey Now mentioned last Friday that Plattner is very much a part of the GM search. I’ve heard that the 78-year-old Plattner, in part because of his advanced age, is the driving force behind the Sharks organization’s unwillingness to rebuild.”
<strong>Pain.</strong></div></div>
Its like the owner is experiencing grief but is stuck at the Denial stage
Rather than go for a rebuild hes gonna keep the sharks in purgatory where they are to good to tank but not good enough to full on compete
Forum:
NHL
Jul. 15, 2022 at 10:19 p.m.
Thread:
How will Tampa become cap compliant at beginning of season?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>If I remember correctly, it's only recalculated at that time?
Technically, on paper, the player is returned to the active roster, the calculations are made, and then the player is placed on LTIR, and those calculations are made.
For Tampa, at a glance, it looks like they are only going to be $320kish over. So they can basically send someone down and have a 22 man compliant roster.
They will probably make a move however, because you don't accumulate cap space while in LTIR, so that $320k won't go away unless they do something about it.</div></div>
Looking at their Cap Friendly page none of their current "NHL contracts" are two-way and none of the players are waivers exempt so to "bury" one they risk losing one of them to waivers. Probably would be Fleury in that scenario since he has the bigger hill to climb to make the roster in any case, but there is risk in losing him there.
Forum:
NHL
Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.
Thread:
How will Tampa become cap compliant at beginning of season?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>That's for players on 2-way contracts that have no NHL games last season (or partial relief for those with a limited number of NHL games).
Basically the guys who get injured over the off-season/camp, and you can defer sending them down until you determine their status, without it impacting your cap.</div></div>
Maybe im looking at the wrong part then. Under SOIR it says:
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CapFriendly</b></div><div>What is the season opening injured reserve (SOIR)?
If a player who is on a two-way contract becomes disabled during training-camp or who reports to training-camp disabled as the result of a hockey related injury incurred during the off-season, they can be placed on season-opening injured reserve, to possibly obtain cap relief. It is notable that the SOIR equations are not the same as the daily rate equations in CBA 15.6, which is instead used to calculate the players daily salary (as opposed to cap hit).
<strong>Full Cap Hit
Players who are on a one-way contract, or players on a two-way contract who accrued 50 or more NHL games in the previous season count fully against the cap hit. Teams can opt to place these players on LTIR to obtain cap-relief (LTIR FAQ).</strong></div></div>
It shows this for players on one-way contracts under the SOIR section but I guess thats just considered regular LTIR?
Forum:
NHL
Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:41 p.m.
Thread:
How will Tampa become cap compliant at beginning of season?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tiggazoo</b></div><div>I thought you had to be cap compliant at beginning of season INCLUDING LTIR, no?</div></div>
If I remember correctly, it's only recalculated at that time?
Technically, on paper, the player is returned to the active roster, the calculations are made, and then the player is placed on LTIR, and those calculations are made.
For Tampa, at a glance, it looks like they are only going to be $320kish over. So they can basically send someone down and have a 22 man compliant roster.
They will probably make a move however, because you don't accumulate cap space while in LTIR, so that $320k won't go away unless they do something about it.
Forum:
NHL
Jul. 15, 2022 at 2:26 p.m.
Thread:
How will Tampa become cap compliant at beginning of season?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>UpsideDownQue</b></div><div>I think they can avoid that by using SOIR
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#soir">https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#soir</a></div></div>
That's for players on 2-way contracts that have no NHL games last season (or partial relief for those with a limited number of NHL games).
Basically the guys who get injured over the off-season/camp, and you can defer sending them down until you determine their status, without it impacting your cap.
Forum:
NHL
Jul. 15, 2022 at 1:29 p.m.
Thread:
How will Tampa become cap compliant at beginning of season?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tiggazoo</b></div><div>I thought you had to be cap compliant at beginning of season INCLUDING LTIR, no?</div></div>
I think they can avoid that by using SOIR
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#soir">https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#soir</a>
Forum:
NHL
Jul. 15, 2022 at 12:46 p.m.
Thread:
How will Tampa become cap compliant at beginning of season?
Seabrook on LTIR and either using a 22 man roster or buyout Myers
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