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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2021 at 3:20 p.m.
Thread: Hall Extension
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>Ya I use individual stats per 60's, not team stats as I find individual/60 is a better indicator of a player performance. A guy can have great team numbers even though he doesn't have much impact on the play. DeBrusk has bounced around the line-up between the 2nd and 3rd line a lot this year and has been asked to play his off-wing (something he hasn't done before).

Funny you use the excuse that Getz/Perry were old and past their prime, yet Krejci is only a year younger but you didn't say he was old and past his prime.

Heinen - has been a healthy scratch how many times this year?

Kulhman is routinely a healthy scratch for Boston and a fringe NHL

Yet your really going to try and say JDB had better linemates?</div></div>

When you play a rough and tumble style like the Ducks do, your body wears down a lot. Krejci is a perimeter player, he doesn't play the same style as those guys. When somebody registers a career high in points do you consider them to be past their prime? Krejci hit his peak in 2018. Age can play a factor into production but not always the case.
You wanted numbers since 2018. I'm showing you the linemates he had in those years. Why are you bringing up this year? If you want to talk about this year, RR has played with Steel and Comtois.

You're really going to stand by the fact that JD didn't have better linemates than RR since 2018? LOL stay up and watch a little west coast hockey.

Individually RR had better numbers than JD in /60 despite having ****ter line mates so you're argument doesn't hold up. RR is a more complete player, plays against the opponent's top lines and teams value a player that can play the full 200 foot game. Clearly, JD can't be relied on in the defensive zone. Hence, the trade value of RR is much higher than JD.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2021 at 2:51 p.m.
Thread: Hall Extension
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>When you say scoring are you talking goals or points?

G/60
RR - 0.77
JD - 1.16

P/60
RR - 2.03
JD - 2.00</div></div>

I'm talking about their overall contribution to their teams

GF/60
RR - 2.45
JD - 2.26

High Danger Scoring Chances/60
RR - 11.11
JD - 9.84

Off Zone Starts/60
RR - 11.64
JD - 12.83

D Zone Starts/60
RR - 8.26
JD - 5.68

RR much more complete player and plays a 200 foot game. In 2018, collected 40+ points, finished tied for second on a team that had absolutely no offensive output and finishing dead last in GF in the league.
JD had the support of Krejci as his main pivot, Krejci went on to have a career year in 2018.

Easy for you to pick G/60 when DeBrusk had better linemates and was playing on a better team
2018 - Rakell's linemates were Getzlaf/Perry and Silfverberg/Shore and Aberg/Getzlaf. Keep in mind Getzlaf and Perry were old and way past their prime. Getzlaf didn't even eclipse 50 points, Perry was injured for a third of the season and collected 10 points.
2019 - Rakell mainly played with Henrique and Silfverberg

2018 - DeBrusk played with Heinen and Krejci
2019 - Krejci and Kuhlman