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Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 18 at 9:34 p.m.
Thread: New head coach options
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Not really Blues did not have anyone on par with Matthews even when they won the cup

This is the greatest goal scorer of the modern era and while he has not unlocked it yet for playoffs Berube may be the guy to do it and when it happens look out league and imagine Willy whose also pretty good under his belt.

Like in STL did Berube have a 40, 50 or even 60 goal + goal scorer to work with no. In all his time there the most was Kyrou with 37 goals. Willy and Matthews have each gotten 40 goals with that being pretty much the min for Matthews.

Berube never had that kind of firepower to work with till now. Instead he had Pietrangelo on the blueline and a good forward core to work with not a great one

Now he's got better weapons offensively and once Brad works on the Dcore adding the missing pieces they set.

As the tradeoff is there. No Pietragelo sure but having better offensive weapon especially Matthews be a worth it trade</div></div>

No matter who was taking over as the new coach, the flawed roster construction is a thing. I personally wanted Brind'Amour but I also understand why it's kind of dangerous waiting for him and later finding out he's staying in Carolina.

Would Brind'Amour fair better than Berube without a top level D? Ehh..I think it's about the same just because if you don't have such players in certain positions, it becomes very difficult to win anything.

One thing I didn't want to see under a new coach is the god aweful drop passes. Like that **** needs to die an instant death. Leafs were so predictable doing it that I'm surprised teams didn't just put a spy on the drop pass.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 17 at 1:03 a.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsForLife</b></div><div>On the one hand, the Rangers ended the seasons of Rod Brind’Amour and the Hurricanes tonight. On the other, Pierre LeBrun is fairly confident in Berube becoming the Leafs next coach.
https://www.tsn.ca/video/lebrun-i-d-be-surprised-if-berube-doesn-t-end-up-coaching-the-leafs%7E2923917</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>It seems like Berube is the guy. Wouldn't be shocked to see Rod join his buddy Ron Francis in Seattle is he is leaving Carolina</div></div>

Remember though things can change on the fly

MLSE may go to Tree and say hold your horses Brad we want Brind'Amour as now Canes are out and there were talks a team was willing to break the Babcock record per Kevin Weeks

That dont sound like something TOR would do with Berube does it.

Makes yah think

https://x.com/KevinWeekes/status/1785021212483027146

Like if Im TOR and I want to pry Brind'Amour from Canes thats one way to do it
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 16 at 8:26 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>I hear you but we are quick look at jT after this be like, lost a step.

Coots hasn't played much due to injuries, has lots term on his deal and and his production is less than even half that of JT.

I like Coots, but taking pause before to consider all the potential downsides of adding him is a must.

And what is going to be cost to get him?
Especially since you expressed the idea of keeping Marner due to cowbell offers.
Is there cap to still revamp the D???</div></div>

We have a ton of space.

Also, the rumours of JTs death are GREATLY exaggerated. I'm looking forward to stealing him wayy too low in my fantasy league next year.

Coots was amazing before the injury, and he has been good since coming back. As far as bets, the upside is enormous
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 16 at 4:18 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Per Neil Smith

Nikolai Ehlers is available

This summer is honestly full of intriguing forward options and a package around the 23 OA pick I think could snag one.

Ehlers, Necas, Farabee + Frost, etc

If you could trade for Farabee + Frost in a package involving the 23 OA pick then trade Marner in another deal for a starter like Saros + then we cooking</div></div>

I just had an idea so crazy, it might be genius.

Scenario: no one offers anything good for Mitch. We keep him.

Even if the lines are different in reg season, plan for a playoffs with Mitch in a defensive 3rd line role since that is how he tends to perform.

Find a centre good enough to play offensively, but also be used in a DFC role.

RoR was the guy, but he's a **** so our next option is...

Sean Couturier

Have Philly hold 2.75, even if we have to pay up for it and roll something like this:

1st: Matthews, Domi
2nd: Jt, Nylander
3rd: Holmberg, Coots, Marner
4th: Dewar, Kampf

Mo-
Benny-McCabe
Raifai-Timmins

Woll

Fill in the blanks with kids/signed players
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 14 at 10:54 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>I was listening to TSN 1050 Overdrive on my drive home today.

The conversation being had was about NHL player salaries.
Specifically why Marner makes 10.9 million VS Marchessault making 5 million, Verhaeghe making 4.1 million, and Konecny making 5.5 million.

Are these guys legitimate morons?
That's their cap hit and not the money they are taking home.

Why is the conversation always about cap hit and not about the money the players are taking home?
It reality Marner is taking home about the same amount of money as these guys after taxes.
Take home money is driving cap hit, not the other way around.


On another note Jeff O'Neil is ****ing idiot and should not be on radio OR TV to talk about hockey.</div></div>

The "take home money" is not what is on the NHL books and that's what it really comes down to. In the cap ERA, money allocation is important but as we're seeing, when money allocation becomes an issue when negotiating with players, term becomes equally important.

If a GM can't manage to figure out the balance between these things, then we see the team go through what the Leafs are in right now.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 14 at 7:43 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>I was listening to TSN 1050 Overdrive on my drive home today.

The conversation being had was about NHL player salaries.
Specifically why Marner makes 10.9 million VS Marchessault making 5 million, Verhaeghe making 4.1 million, and Konecny making 5.5 million.

Are these guys legitimate morons?
That's their cap hit and not the money they are taking home.

Why is the conversation always about cap hit and not about the money the players are taking home?
It reality Marner is taking home about the same amount of money as these guys after taxes.
Take home money is driving cap hit, not the other way around.


On another note Jeff O'Neil is ****ing idiot and should not be on radio OR TV to talk about hockey.</div></div>

There's a bunch of things but Dubas also is a part to blame due to losing out on the other 2 negotiations and Farris being Marner's agent and throwing Marner's rep down the drain

After Rantanen signed his deal Marner should have went you know what 9.5m x 6 years and nobody would have batted an eye at him but nope he wanted almost JT money

But yea its kind of silly
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 13 at 5:52 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>So its pretty clear whose the new HC

They saw the same guy twice and when that happens its pretty clear lul</div></div>

You made it pretty clear that you would prefer Berube and I understand why...just want you to consider that Berube had Pietroanglo who played at the highest level in St. Louis. The guy also raised the play of Parayko and whoever else he was on the ice with.

There's no Pietroanglo on this team, not even close. Berube also had Binnington who went on a crazy run,stole multiple games in multiple series. Don't have that either. I'm not sure what to think of Berube as an option here but the talent at certain positions definitely isn't the same as was in St. Louis.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 13 at 2:17 p.m.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 12 at 7:20 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Do you agre we need a D with shot?
At least a threat, whose in your list for this?</div></div>

If we look at the UFA market there are a few D with a good shot

Skjei, Montour, OEL, Ghost, Gustafsson, Walker

Skjei and Montour feel like a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. Both are gonna cost 6-7m and thats to much

Ghost is a 1-way Dman like Barrie and Klingberg and is just gonna give the fans more headaches than he's worth and will probs cost around 5m

OEL is havign a nice little season but when you look his shooting % is higher than it was in Van. Tends to happen in FLA

Gus was here already and was a nice little piece but like Ghost is a 1-way LD and TOR should not be eyeing that


So that leaves Walker. That may very well be the choice rn should cost around 4-5m. After that can go target a Rielly partner like Demelo, Roy, Tanev, etc.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 12 at 10:37 p.m.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 12 at 10:58 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Tanev I could see as when you think of the kinds of Dman Rielly works best with he immediately comes to mind

Zadorov im not so sure as basically why go target a 3rd pair Dman whose gonna cost 5m. With the tight cap space Brad would probs bring back Edmundson. Didnt mind him these playoffs and if he signs a 2.4m x 2 year deal I got 0 objection. Main issue was just couldnt easily move the puck and blue line was not great for generating offense or being a threat offensively

If they can combine physicality with puck-movement they set

But I think based on Brads comments on a lack of scoring one of Skeji, Montour or Walker is probably coming and with Tanev those are not 2 bad additions. And that's probs where the money is going</div></div>

I kind of want to stay away from Tanev mostly due to the mileage on his body.

A combination of Roy and Montour or Montour and Demelo not something you like?

Also, where do people see Liljegren fitting on this team? Or is maybe his time to prove that he's more than a 3rd pair D up?

What would you even want in a Liljegren trade.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 12 at 5:24 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
Guess I should have checked this thread sooner LoL.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>Keefes post game comment was enough to send me back here for one last angry tirade against that pathetic excuse for a head coach.

For you guys who haven't seen the quote, it goes as follows: "When teams beat <em><strong>the Leafs</strong></em>, they set up the game for <strong><em>the Leafs</em></strong> to beat <strong><em>themselves</em></strong>"

Pretty choice wording here. First off, whose job is it to make sure the team sticks to the system? Whose job is it to adapt and manage the team? Whose job is it to react when teams start applying pressure? Whose job is it to keep your players heads straight? THATS YOUR JOB SHELDON. Actually, let me back it up; that <strong>used</strong> to be your job Sheldon. Kiss your spot on the bench goodbye and don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out. You have done nothing for the Leafs and won't do anything for any other NHL teams unless they are looking to tank. If only your bulldog-like appearance also translated to a bulldog-like mentality. You can blame the players for sure, but YOU are just as big of a part of this team as they are, and YOU are largely to blame for this team setting themselves up for failure. Who decides to put the 4th line out at critical points in the game? Who decides to play Samsonov when it's abundantly clear Woll should play? Who decides to keep going back to the same old tactics that always fail? THATS YOU, SHELDON.

In good news, Keefes wording is pretty specific. He distances himself from the team, which is hopefully an indication of his inevitable departure from this team. We deserve so much better than some pathetic excuse for a head coach who thinks he's all that because he used to front as a tough guy back in the early 2000s. He thinks he's all that because the Marlies stacked team walked their way to a Calder Cup. My only hope is that this born loser is hired by another Atlantic division team so we can beat up on them in the first round.

Keefe is a coward who does not know hockey. He doesn't take any sort of accountability, gives a pass to our best players when they disappear, and rips into our other players when they occasionally make minor mistakes. Hope you enjoyed your time in the sun Sheldon, because you will never be a name anyone remembers outside of reminiscing about the Leafs plights prior to our Cup win. You will go down as a laughing stock and a detriment. Enjoy unemployment Sheldon</div></div>

Well said. To add to your spirited post I'll say that it really undermined Keefe's creditabily with media, fans and probably most importantly the players when he walked back comments he made 2-3 times during his time as the coach. Nevermind the media or fans for a second but just the players...how can they take you seriously if you're critical of them one moment and then walking them back the next day when Mr. God Complex himself probably got pissy about it.

Anyway, a rookie coach was the wrong decision (yes Keefe was a rookie coach when he took over) for this market at the time.

No more coach excuses.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 12 at 7:02 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>Saros is fine but he will be costly in trade with little else included, plus his lack of size doesn't worry you?

Sorokin is a fantasy, Islanders trading him... I'll believe it when it happens regardless of the playoff events


I'm not stuck on Ullmark by any means, nor am I on Montour.
Roy I want, any thoughts on another D man with a shot? Yes we need this on the team cause Rielly don't have one.</div></div>

Saros has done fine in the league despite his size. For a goalie that does not worry me its Dman to where its a concern

I do not care for cost at this point as TOR needs to get their goaltending straightened out

We have Woll whose injury prone and were expecting 40 games out of him next year, 0 idea what we have in Hildeby, and the UFA market sucks. Sure we can trade for Ullmark or sign Talbot but Brad said it best in that presser "we dont want to have the second best goalie in a series" Ullmark would be that vs. Swayman, Vasi, and Bobrosky.

Go invest in a legit starter.