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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2023 at 11:53 a.m.
Thread: Bratt for Necas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Necas has played center in the NHL, but it was under Peters and during Rod's 1st season. It's been a while, but he's shown he can do it

And if it was up to Rod Aho would still be on the wing</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Necas has played center in the NHL, but it was under Peters and during Rod's 1st season. It's been a while, but he's shown he can do it

And if it was up to Rod Aho would still be on the wing</div></div>

Rob became head coach for the 2018-19 season where necas played 7 games. In 2017-18 necas played 1 game under Peters. You can’t use a 8 game sample to say he played center in the NHL. please look stuff up before saying it. Necas is not a center in the NHL. Not saying he won’t become one but you can’t say he has the value of a center based on 8 games.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29, 2023 at 6:42 p.m.
Thread: Fresh blood
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Centers are more valuable than wingers, especially 1C. If it's Kotkaniemi, slightly different. Finding 1C's is borderline impossible. If Aho never moved to the middle and the Canes were still looking for a 1C, I'd understand this, but I just cannot justify it. Aho is a PPG player in both the regular and post season. He comes through more often than not when the Canes need him. He doesn't play next to Auston Matthews so he doesn't put up 100 points and 70 assists, but Aho has had a 45 goal (pace, it was the Pandemic year, Aho didn't miss any game time) season. I wouldn't give up the player that is undeniably the better goal scorer for Marner because more of Aho is exactly what the Canes need</div></div>

I agree that centers are more valuable and hard to find. But saying just because Aho plays center makes Im better than marner is laughable. Marner put up Over PPG pace in regular season and playoffs.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29, 2023 at 6:23 p.m.
Thread: Fresh blood
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>I disagree with Marner being our best forward. So many people see Selke finalist and go "he's good defensively". Marner is fine defensively, but he's not going to be out there with a 1 goal lead. Staal is. Fast( if he re-signs) is, Martinook is. Slavin is. Burns is.

You're right, they want sustained success. It's something the team has never really had. Absolutely fine with that. But they've always deals to make the team better. Even some that were questions (Nedeljkovic, Skinner, Bean). Marner is another pass first winger. He doesn't fix the goal scoring woes. What the Canes needed this playoff run for example was sitting on LTIR with an ACL tear and an Achillies tear. Marner doesn't address needs here.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>I disagree with Marner being our best forward. So many people see Selke finalist and go "he's good defensively". Marner is fine defensively, but he's not going to be out there with a 1 goal lead. Staal is. Fast( if he re-signs) is, Martinook is. Slavin is. Burns is.

I agree you put the staal line out with slavin and burns. I think marner does become our best forward. 99 points in a season, haven’t had that since Staal in 2006. He scored 30 goals this year he can definitely score. I think it’s going to cost too much to get him so it’s all a moot point. But he does make the canes a lot better</div></div>
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29, 2023 at 6:09 p.m.
Thread: Fresh blood
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Pass. Marner doesn't fix the goal scoring issues and Necas puts up 75% of the production for 25% of the cost. Necas is 3 years younger and had 25 fewer points. Necas can also play C. No reason to do that</div></div>

Necas is hot and cold. He hasn’t consistently put up the same number every year. Also I don’t think he will play C for Rod. He isn’t defensive enough. Marner without a doubt would be our best forward and can play PK and trusted in one goal games (selke finalist). I don’t think the canes go for him. He’s going to cost alot and the contract situation isn’t the best for what the canes are building. I feel like we are building to be a playoff team for 10 years straight but never go all in for a cup. While that doesn’t mean we can’t win a cup in that span it’s not managements “goal”. They want long term profits, not cup or bust.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.
Thread: Marner read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchJr</b></div><div>Wow, you must have been sitting on that for a while - hope you feel better. But it was mostly nonsense:
1/ JT contract expires same year as Marner so lots of dough
2/ cap going up significantly by ‘25, as much as $5-6 M from this year per some estimates
3/ leafs will always be a preferred location, if for no reason then it’s the centre of the hockey universe &amp; the surrounding area contributes more nhl players than any other region in the world (hometown pull)
4/ Matthew’s said he wants to stay - but time will tell 🤷🏻</div></div>

You also said the canes wouldn’t move a core player. Necas and skjei are both core players. Necas is an RFA so Toronto has negotiable power. And skjei is top 4 on Toronto
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29, 2023 at 5:09 p.m.
Thread: Marner read description
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchJr</b></div><div>Wow, you must have been sitting on that for a while - hope you feel better. But it was mostly nonsense:
1/ JT contract expires same year as Marner so lots of dough
2/ cap going up significantly by ‘25, as much as $5-6 M from this year per some estimates
3/ leafs will always be a preferred location, if for no reason then it’s the centre of the hockey universe &amp; the surrounding area contributes more nhl players than any other region in the world (hometown pull)
4/ Matthew’s said he wants to stay - but time will tell 🤷🏻</div></div>
I don’t think home town pull is as big as it once was. Players want to play in USA where there’s less tax. Florida, Nevada, and Texas have no income tax. Notice how teams in those states are still going for the cup. They have the pull as players get more of their money