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Forum: Armchair-GMAug 30 at 6:14 pm
Thread: My NHL 19 Top 50 Rankings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>linehan10</b></div><div>It's honestly like you refuse to acknowledge any of my points about tough minutes. And its as if Eichel scoring more goals is better than Barzal getting a considerable more amount of points? Should we give Anders Lee the Hart instead of McDavid next season? Anyway, I have a few takeaways from this 'argument' here:

1. Eichel seems to be better cause his name is more recognizable
2. Barzal was playing "easy minutes" as a top six forward in the NHL, including about a 60/20 split between second line-first line, and is ROOKIE god forbid

Just because he only has one year of competition under his belt, doesn't actually mean that he doesn't deserve recognition.</div></div>


yo its not like im not giving him recognition i just dont think you can give a guy with one season under his belt a rank in the top 50 players in the league, is he top 50 forward? without a doubt. he was on my fantasy team last season i know hes very good he put up a ton of points but theres guys on here that have been playing great for more than just one year and also doing it in the playoffs. Like I said before, if he puts up the same numbers while facing the toughest competition on each team every night then he will be on this list next year for sure. in my eyes i wanna see him have similar success as the #1 guy that opposing teams focus on. and yes Eichel is a more familiar name **because hes better**
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 30 at 3:41 pm
Thread: My NHL 19 Top 50 Rankings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mothariah</b></div><div>The kid had one good year and you think he is the next #99? Settle down.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>linehan10</b></div><div>Your logic that Eichel is better than Barzal is in your head. You cannot seem to grasp that Barzal has simply had better stats in one season than Eichel has ever had in three tries. If you asked scouts would you rather have a rookie point per game player or a third year not point per game forward who can’t stay healthy, I guarantee all 50 would take the former, including buffalo scouts

Dude eichel was .96 ppg last season calm down barzal is not better than eichel. There is a reason 2015 was the McDavid/Eichel draft not McDavid/Barzal draft. He dropped past top 10 because he is all offense. Eichel is just as good offensively but is bigger, stronger and much better in his own end. It’s ridiculous to think that one good rookie season playing easy minutes behind JT (haha btw) makes him better than Jack Eichel. oh and Eichel had 3 more goals than barzal did in 15 less games with 35 y.o jason pominville passing him the puck. I guarantee you Eichel puts up more points than Barzal this season while also playing a lot better defensively</div></div>
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 30 at 1:14 pm
Thread: My NHL 19 Top 50 Rankings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>linehan10</b></div><div>Im thrilled you brought up +/-. Barzal was a +1 on the worst defensive team in hockey - Eichel was a -25 in only 67 games. +/- is the worst way to tell how good a player is defensively. John Tavares was a -12 and got Selke Votes. Ryan O'Reilly was a -23 and finished tenth in Selke voting. See how pointless that is?

I'll give you Getzlaf. I didn't realize he played in so few games. Eichel I will not. He's never been a PPG, ever. You can't really bring up how bad the team around him has been either, because the Islanders were historically bad last season, as you pointed out. Barzal makes everybody around him better, including after thoughts like Andrew Ladd. He is elite, and is a top-50 player in the league.

Also, your "tough minutes" argument is foolish. He got PP1 time and even centered the top line in multiple games towards the end of the season. In some of those games, Tavares was on his wing. So essentially what I'm saying is, if you're going to get him for ridiculous things like a barely positive +/- or the fact that he was a rookie, then you need to hold everyone accountable.</div></div>

dude you are so in denial....you could ask 50 NHL execs/scouts if they would rather have Eichel or Barzal and id be willing to bet 49 of em would take Jack . the one that wouldnt prolly and islanders scout 😅
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 30 at 11:42 am
Forum: Armchair-GMAug 30 at 10:57 am
Thread: My NHL 19 Top 50 Rankings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mothariah</b></div><div>Okay, so you're saying you want a player who had a bunch of points, looked honestly below average in his own zone, and couldn't help his team make the playoffs over Evgeni Kuznetsov, who really should have won the Conn Smythe



Barzal could lead the NHL in scoring. That doesn't mean he's the best player. FACT. Connor McDavid lead the league in scoring. He didn't win the Hart. You know who once won the Art Ross? Jamie Benn. Would you call him the best player in the league? Hell no. He's a great player, don't get me wrong. Probably on of the top 10 wingers in the league right now. But he is NOT the best player in the league.

Get a grip and lose your hometown bias towards Barzal. Prove to me he can play at that elite level without a superstar ahead of him on the depth chart, and for more than just one year.

Barzal is a good player, and he will probably be a great player for a long time. But settle down. He has a lot to prove yet.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>linehan10</b></div><div>give me barzal over kuzy, getzlaf, eichel, and a bunch of others any day. Simple phrase: if you don't perform as well as a certain player, you're not better than that player</div></div>


barzal over Eichel hahahahahaha

linehan10 according to your awful logic David Perron is better than Joe Pavelski, Filip Forsberg, Anders Lee, Nikolaj Ehlers lol

you just simply dont know hockey if you think Barzal is already a top 50 player in the league he had one good year in the league. now if he continues to produce at the same
level he did last year without tavares eating all the tough minutes then yeah he will be on the list next year. but he needs to get better defensively and show he can be a top line guy before hes jumping guys like getzlaf who have already shown they can.
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