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Bite the bullet on Lucic Trade with TOR NYR MTL

Created by: Dwight_Schrute
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: May 17, 2019
Published: May 17, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Max Perf. Bonus
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
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It is time to move on from Lucic. In a world with a rising cap and an owner with deep pockets we are better off to just buy him out than to trade him along with assets in order to retain salary anyway. Buying him our saves 3 Million this year, 375k next year, 1.8mil the year after that then $375k in the final year. The penalty is only a $600k hit for three years following the buy out. To me thats worth it. Just get him gone, if nothing else it clears a roster spot.

The Brodziak trade doesnt need to happen. We have the space to keep him as a scratch in this scenario but it would be preferable to move him.

Vesey and Brown trades seem like commons sense, it is my personal belief the draft picks might be a one round overpay in each scenario but we need winger depth like we need oxygen.

The Sekera for Shaw deal is where I know this thread becomes controversial. The Habs are in need of an upgrade to their defensive core at the NHL level, Sekera can be that, Shaw is also expendable there as they have many forwards that are better and or cheaper than he is plus it is my understanding that the Habs plan to target one of the bigger FA forwards. In this scenario the money is even, they trade an expendable guy from a surplus to upgrade a weakness, and they gain an early second round pick to either package or use to get a pretty decent prospect as well as a lottery ticket type prospect to try to develop. To me its fair but I am open to discussion, the Oilers could even probably retain more if need be.

Mrazek may be a long shot but I'm not sure anyone is going to be offering him a better contract than that. The Oilers need a goaltending upgrade and after Bobrovsky its my opinion that Mrazek is the best guy available to share a net with Koskinen.

It is my understanding that Cozens is the most NHL ready forward in the draft, if the Oil can get him it could instantly improve the top 6, if he isnt ready or if they go in a different direction Kassian could bump up like he did last year or they can give Puljujarvi another kick at it.

I like the bottom 6 here, a third line good in their own end and tough to play against that can kick in some offence, then a young talented fourth line that can ideally get an increased role as the season goes on and maybe eventually flip with what I have listed as the third. If they want to develop those players another year or if they struggle we have options like Gagner and Cave to come in and play 8 minutes a night at a passable fourth line level.

Blueline remains questionable. Banking on bounce back years from Klefbom and Larsson, continued upward development of Nurse and Jones, and stability as third pair guys from Russell and Benning. Gravel is fine to scratch and play in emergencies, Persson, Bouchard, and Bear will compete to be the first guys up if a long term hole opens up. It is a lot to ask of the group but for the first time in a long time the blueline isnt the biggest need for an upgrade this offseason.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,100,000
3$1,250,000
3$850,000
3$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$700,000
4$4,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Cozens, Dylan
3$950,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Safin, Ostap
  2. Sekera, Andrej ($1,600,000 retained)
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (EDM)
2.
TOR
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. Vesey, Jimmy ($1,000,000 retained)
NYR
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
4.
EDM
  1. 2019 6th round pick (VGK)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$80,655,332$0$177,500$2,344,668

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$1,275,000$1,275,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
Cozens, Dylan
$950,000$950,000
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$808,333$808,333 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$75,000$75K)
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$675,000$675,000
C
RFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,835,000$2,835,000
RW, C
UFA - 1

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May 17, 2019 at 5:04 p.m.
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I see what you're getting at but look at your roster. A THIRD of your forward group are rookies, I think we've seen that before ie. Oilers 2011-2012? or maybe 2012-2013? Regardless, it didn't work then, it's not gonna work now.

You want cap flexibility or stability? Stay away from buyouts. You're turning a 4 year problem into an 8 year mess. Either find a team/teams who want him at 3M/1.5M without giving up too much or tell him to watch the game from the pressbox.
May 17, 2019 at 5:11 p.m.
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Quoting: ConnorsCousin
I see what you're getting at but look at your roster. A THIRD of your forward group are rookies, I think we've seen that before ie. Oilers 2011-2012? or maybe 2012-2013? Regardless, it didn't work then, it's not gonna work now.

You want cap flexibility or stability? Stay away from buyouts. You're turning a 4 year problem into an 8 year mess. Either find a team/teams who want him at 3M/1.5M without giving up too much or tell him to watch the game from the pressbox.


You sound like a young Peter chiarreli talking like that. Buyout isnt ideal, but nothing about lucic is ideal. There is a lot of good here and benson, yammo, marody and cozens are young and if you read the description you'd see that none of them need to play.

Overall I think it's a good option. Vesey and cozens scares me but I mean, nuge always gets to play with crap, better than khaira and gagner.
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May 17, 2019 at 5:15 p.m.
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You sound like a young Peter chiarreli talking like that. Buyout isnt ideal, but nothing about lucic is ideal. There is a lot of good here and benson, yammo, marody and cozens are young and if you read the description you'd see that none of them need to play.

Overall I think it's a good option. Vesey and cozens scares me but I mean, nuge always gets to play with crap, better than khaira and gagner.


young PC? Did you know that the only two seasons that actually save the Oilers money in a Lucic buyout is this summer and two summers from now? in year 2 and 4 of the buyout they would actually lose cap space because they need to sign a player on league minimum contract. Then add the other 4 years of cap penalty and that's years and years of dead cap space. Maybe young PC was better than old PC cus he won a cup 8 years ago wink
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May 17, 2019 at 5:17 p.m.
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In this cap world buying out Lucic with the little savings it would bring us would be bad use of the cap money. I understand that we need to move on from Lucic but I am 100% against buying him out. When Sekera is healthy he is an above average defenseman, adding in Safin and a second to me is an overpayment. I personally don't like Shaw, he is too much of a hot head and takes really stupid penalties. You can't put Puljujarvi in the minors without him clearing waivers so that can't be done. Getting Brown and Vesey is fine.
May 17, 2019 at 5:20 p.m.
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Quoting: ConnorsCousin
young PC? Did you know that the only two seasons that actually save the Oilers money in a Lucic buyout is this summer and two summers from now? in year 2 and 4 of the buyout they would actually lose cap space because they need to sign a player on league minimum contract. Then add the other 4 years of cap penalty and that's years and years of dead cap space. Maybe young PC was better than old PC cus he won a cup 8 years ago wink


I agree, buying out Lucic would be the worst thing cap wise that we could do! I don't understand why so many Oiler fans think it is a good idea.
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