Quoting: AEcho
NSH will need more than that for all of what you have there. Considering how much McCabe just went for, Ekholm will go for more. Take out McKegg, swap Schaefer for Holloway or Broberg and we'll keep TBL's 5th and Trenin. Then we are talking, but I think they could still ask for more.
McKegg's in there to keep the number of contracts equal. He'll be headed to the Admirals anyways, so let's redirect the focus to what matters.
McCabe is cheaper, younger, equally as effective, and comes with less injury history than Ekholm does. Let's meet in the middle and say his excess value in comparison to Ekholm can be negated by the fact that Chicago sold LOW on their assets and that the two should be fetching a return slightly better than what Chicago received.
The 2023 1st outweighs the 2025 1st significantly based on the quality of the two drafts and the immediacy in which Nashville receives the asset. That is excess value in Nashville's favour compared to the McCabe deal. Nothing close to Schaefer's talent made it's way to Chicago in that deal: he's a legitimate B-prospect whereas Anderson is an AHL tweener and Gogolev did not make Toronto's top-15 prospect list (The Athletic, Scott Wheeler). I think any Predators fan wins the argument that the difference between a 2025 3rd and 2026 2nd, while miniscule, exists. I'd love to know why you think Nashville needs more out of this deal as the quality of pieces returned is vastly eclipsing what Toronto paid for McCabe. The Predators are only retaining $1M more than Chicago did over the life of the deal.
There is a difference of value between Yamamoto and Trenin. Again, using quick and reliable numbers, I'll use GSVA numbers from Dom Luszczyszyn's 2022-23 player cards as a baseline metric as the two players accomplish two different things. Yamamoto has a GSVA of 0.9 while Trenin has a score of 0.2. All I value from Trenin's game is his cap hit and PK abilities.
The market for backup goalies hasn't been established this season, but history says we can expect something in range of a fourth round pick.
Again, looking to GSVA for a really surface-level look at the assets being exchanged, I'll break down the trade further:
McKegg - 0.0 GSVA
Schaefer - 2.7 GSVA
Yamamoto - 0.9 GSVA
2023 1st - 3.7 GSVA
2025 3rd - 0.5 GSVA
Total: 7.8 GSVA
Ekholm - 1.2 GSVA
Lankinen - 0.9 GSVA
Trenin - 0.2 GSVA
2023 5th - 0.2 GSVA
2025 7th - 0.2 GSVA
Total: 2.7 GSVA
I've made three assumptions in this calculation: Schaefer's value is equivalent to the pick he was drafted with last year, Edmonton's 2025 3rd is the last of the 2025 third round, and Nashville's 7th is the first pick of that round. We could even go on a limb and double Ekhom's value in this scenario to factor in the retention. Nashville still walks away with double the value they put into the deal.
I don't know what else Predators fans want. There's no dead cap going back to Nashville and every key piece one could want from a retooling team is there. Your ask for one of Holloway or Broberg is ridiculous.
Quoting: Jwilliams2k12
Preds deal isn’t close at all
See above.