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Forum: NHLYesterday at 1:56 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>Ah got ya.

Yeah but as we see with Knyzhov - for example - he’s always been enjoyable to watch (not frustrating like Vlasic or Hoffman for example): carries a 1.2m AAV x 1 more year, and is 6’3 222lbs.

I think any of the contenders with cap troubles should have claimed him. Would be top 4 in the AHL and has 2nd pair ceiling in the NHL if he can stay healthy and get some consistency in his icetime. He wasn’t claimed despite as you outline some good relative stats - and I think he should have been claimed by one of the contenders as a depth/ injury help or playoff run protection. It was obvious Knyzhov was Griers guy, and Okho has seen direct investment.

Okho took his job, hasn’t played bad but needs to improve. And we’ve seen Okho, Griers guy - take priority.

So it’s hard to really tell what teams are thinking. We see hundreds of bizarre moves every year - example being Addison.

Not quite the same situation - but MIN said we don’t want to invest more time into Calen, we’ll acquire kinda of 7th man in Bogo and use his size on the 3rd pair and trade Calen for ad best a 4th liner (Raska who I really like) and a mid/ late pick. Many people including MIN reporters like Russo scratching their heads.</div></div>

Teams currently in LTIR wouldn't have been able to pick him up without likely having to waive him again. Depending on player recovery timelines, it's more of a pain in the ass to bring a guy on for a few games than it is to just play your own #7 guy.

I think teams like Nashville, Detroit, and PHilly should have claimed him but the way teams internally evaluate their own players and the players from other teams probably suggested he'd be a marginal upgrade at best. At an AAV almost double league-minimum, marginal upgrades just won't cut it.
Forum: NHLYesterday at 1:45 p.m.
Forum: NHLYesterday at 1:36 p.m.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>Elliotte has said Carolina - among a handful of other teams took a run at Ferraro to acquire him, and are still looking at a deal. He’s said this has caused more teams to check in.

Other night he said Ferraro would be quite expensive, and personally I say we can use Hronek as a comparison in trade value (1st + 2nd) - however you could argue Ferraro could see a first and a high prospect due to the:

- 3m AAV
- Signed through this year, next year, and the year after
- being a defence/ block first player who’s regularly logged over 20min before on a bad team

Either way they are different players. Hronek was more of a producer, with no term. Ferraro has term and is cheap but isn’t going to slap up 40-50 points. I’d expect Grier is looking at an equal value to Hronek.

My guess is Grier is looking at Morrow and a first from Carolina which is why the deal obviously hasn’t been done yet. With more teams calling, it will be interesting.

My opinion is that Toronto could do something crazy.

Ferraro and Chris Tanev (2.25 retained by CGY, 1.125 retained by SJS). The 3 way deal they wanted to get done with Tanev and Zadorov which didn’t cross the line, could be done with the SJS and CGY. San Jose would be able to give Thrun or Shakir NHL playing time as a result.

:leafs

The new future in Toronto having a D core of:

Rielly - Brodie (quality top pair)
Ferraro - Tanev (shutdown pair)
McCabe - Lili (rewarding 3rd pair)
Gio
Laegy

And I would bet Toronto would throw up both their firsts and maybe Topi to get the deal across the finish line. They resign Brodie for hopefully cheap and try to see if Tanev takes a team friendly deal. Could be the D line Toronto needs to win a cup.</div></div>

Where is this interest in Ferraro coming from?

By all accounts and metrics he's a fringe top-four option, even if you do him a favour and look at the rel stats. He had a really good rookie season and hasn't been half as good since.
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