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Created by: Ledge_And_Dairy
Team: 2023-24 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 17, 2023
Published: Jun. 19, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Left Handed
Original Team
Waivers Exempt
Right Handed
Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
To keep Sorokin long term the Islanders are likely going to have to prove that they are "all in." Obviously it sucks to loose Dobson but Erik Karlsson is without question a major upgrade on their blueline and should drastically improve the teams offense, especially on their powerplay.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$840,000
2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,750,000
1$775,000
1$1,100,000
Trades
NYI
  1. Karlsson, Erik ($3,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Cond* If NYI makes the ECF then the 2nd upgrades to a 1st
SJS
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. Dobson, Noah
  3. Salo, Robin
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (NYI)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$81,965,000$0$0$1,535,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 8
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$9,150,000$9,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 8
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
UFA - 4
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 6
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$6,150,000$6,150,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
G
UFA - 4
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$840,000$840,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW
UFA - 3

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Jun. 19, 2023 at 10:11 a.m.
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That’s an extremely weak offer for Karlsson lol
Jun. 19, 2023 at 10:21 a.m.
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That’s an extremely weak offer for Karlsson lol


Alright hit me then. What do you think Karlsson's trade value is? Keep in mind San Jose obviously isn't going to retain 50%, they would be paying him 19 million over the next 4 years to play for a different team, I highly doubt they would retain anymore than what I have here, which would be ~10M in money owed
Jun. 19, 2023 at 10:27 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Alright hit me then. What do you think Karlsson's trade value is? Keep in mind San Jose obviously isn't going to retain 50%, they would be paying him 19 million over the next 4 years to play for a different team, I highly doubt they would retain anymore than what I have here, which would be ~10M in money owed


That 2nd alone would be the cost to move Bailey. I don’t think Salo holds any value, so Dobson is the only thing with value

I don’t know maybe Bailey, Dobson, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st, Holmstrom. Then plus picks for however much retention
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Jun. 19, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.
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That 2nd alone would be the cost to move Bailey. I don’t think Salo holds any value, so Dobson is the only thing with value

I don’t know maybe Bailey, Dobson, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st, Holmstrom. Then plus picks for however much retention

The cost to dump a player is only true in the case of purely buying cap space, if your POV was true then it should have cost Vancouver a lot more to dump all 3 of Roussel, Beagle, and Eriksson.
Not sure why you think Salo holds no value, I would say the only difference between him and Holmstrom is that Salo is no longer waiver exempt.
As for Dobson he's only 23 and has put up back to back 50 point seasons. He absolutely has a lot of trade value himself and fits the Sharks timeline quite well
Also the 2nd in my post is also a conditional 1st so basically you are saying the difference here is roughly a 2nd in value
Jun. 19, 2023 at 10:52 a.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Alright hit me then. What do you think Karlsson's trade value is? Keep in mind San Jose obviously isn't going to retain 50%, they would be paying him 19 million over the next 4 years to play for a different team, I highly doubt they would retain anymore than what I have here, which would be ~10M in money owed


I think whether we pay 50% retention is still up in there air. Grier said around the deadline that we didn't want to retain too much, but I think there's a good chance that is just a negotiating strategy. They'll go higher if the offer is good enough.

As for how much money the high retention would be, its definitely crazy but not unthinkable. We're paying the money regardless, its just a question of whether its full price to keep him around and not help the rebuild, or half price to ship him our and get something in return. I feel like its comparable to the major buyouts we've seen in the last few years. OEL is now also getting 20m to not play for Vancouver, but that is over 8 years instead of 4. Combined the Parise and Suter buyouts are like 13m real dollars over 8 years, but in terms of cap its something like 52m+ over 8 years. Not trying to say those are worse than 50% retained on EK65, just saying the cap crunch has made teams desperate, and Grier should be given the leeway to do what he can to fix the issues of the previous front office. Plus unlike a buyout we'd actually get something back for him.
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