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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Forum: Armchair-GM18 hours ago
Thread: next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>that's fair! I just looked up Wolf and was like "he is only 21... I doubt he is ready for next year"

And then I saw his AHL stats from last year and was like "Nevermind! He is definitely ready"

Would give them an extra 1.4m cap space from what I have here if they did that as well.

Either way Calgary is set up so nicely in the longterm. 6.5 x 8 for Weegar is a great contract for team and player in my mind as well! Hopefully that's what they end up on.</div></div>

Valimaki will almost certainly not be making that much either and I think Kylington may get moved too. With nobody really stepping up so far in Camp for the 2nd line open spot we may see a trade even this summer still. I would also highly consider Coronato for next years roster after he signs his elc at years end
Forum: Armchair-GM20 hours ago
Thread: I suspect this would be the Chychrun offer EDM puts forth
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>It was never the Eichel return, that was misconstrued. And the Eichel return wasn't four 1sts anyhow.

Armstrong indicated that he wanted a package like Eichel got: 4 pieces consisting of a young player, a prospect, a 1st and another high pick. He was never expecting the same <em>quality</em> of pieces as Eichel, but a deal constructed in the same manner.

It's kind of like expecting an "Eichel-like return" for your $20 lunch money: a burger, fries, salad and milkshake.

But nobody met that ask, so it sounds like he's lowering his demands. He still has an unhappy player who has demanded a trade and reiterated the same in the past weeks. The ask appears to be a 1st + a prospect + a contract or 2.</div></div>

That last part is not accurate, he did not demand a trade as an unhappy player. He is happy to cooperate in making a trade happen. He simply stated his preference to go to a playoff team recently, which is logical.

As for Eichel, he was traded at about 50% of his actual value due to being injured and not on a recovery plan. Don't act like he was traded at full value to make the ask for a similar return for a #1 dman unrealistic
Forum: Armchair-GM23 hours ago
Forum: Armchair-GM24 hours ago
Thread: I suspect this would be the Chychrun offer EDM puts forth
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>Yeah, so in a sense they are lowering their ask, just not in the main component of the trade, which is an a premium prospect+ a 1st, this hasn't changed from their last ask-the OP is hoping that they will be more willing to negotiate on this portion which they aren't at this time. You are right, though that not much has really changed since taking a cap dump is given if he's going to be traded to a contender or even most teams. I think the difference is the quality of player they are willing to take + the sweetner for doing so.</div></div>

Last time I checked their ask was 2 1sts and a top prospect. Mind you I think it will be closer to premium prospect + a 1st (plus the cost to dump cap on them).

I wonder, with Edmonton specifically could we see something more along the lines of the OEL trade where Arizona took on many contracts (I'm not talking about Garland being included nor the retention). Like could there be a scenario where both Klefbom and Smith are dumped as well so that Edmonton can accrue cap space during the season? From my understanding Klefbom is insured, and the league insures 85% of players over 35 iirc.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 3:46 p.m.
Thread: Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Someone once said, “good teams get good fast and bad teams get bad fast”. I tend to agree. Devils could very easily be the former. Last year, the goaltending was bad. Maybe worst season in a decade. If you put even average goaltending on the 2021-22 Devils, they would have been in playoff picture (primarily based on GD vs xGD, but also via eye test as there were so may many games when one bad goal would deflate the entire team).

This year they may end up sellers since they have some quality guys expiring. Even if they enter playoff picture, this will not be the peak, so they will look to maximize their window. But I doubt there will be a firesale…probably just Severson and Wood.

Dman rarely hit their prime before age 22/23, but Hughes and Nemec are both very special prospects, and even if their prime may be a few years away, their current level is probably close to NHL-worthy. Hughes was the first freshman dman to be a Hobey Baker finalist in 35 years and he did it as youngest dman in college hockey. He is 4 years younger than mean age in his league (this would be like an exceptional status player winning CHL dman of year). Nemec has looked great in limited pre-season action thus far. He has 3 years experience playing against adults and has only gotten better and better each year relative to his peers. Last year, he was probably the best dman in league after Olympic break. Neither probably play more than handful of games this year, but will both be NHL regulars next year.

Holtz also has 3 years experience playing against adults. Gritsyuk is in his second KHL season. Mercer played 82 games last year. It’s not like we are running out a bunch of juniors out there.</div></div>

I feel like you are agreeing with me but phrasing it in a way that feels like they arent.

When I said 2-3 years mean when they enter their contending window (assuming goaltending comes around). I agree that Nemec could probably join the team next year on the 3rd pair. I also agree that Hughes could probably walk on soon as well.

My point is more that between now and next year the team will still have it's core young players but there will probably be quite a transformation of the surrounding players (maybe they bring back Wood but I expect all the other pending UFA's to go elsewhere and/or be sold at the deadline.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 3:00 p.m.
Thread: Chychrun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>I gotta disagree. There's more than potential right now. Trust me, it pains me to say positive things about the devils lol

Bratt and Sharangovich are legit young top six forwards.
The only thing I'd label "potential" is whether or not Boqvist and Bastian are more than bottom-six guys, but they're solid bottom-six players as of right now.
Their defense is legit.
Their top guys are legit.
The expiring guys will open up a good amount of space for them to snag a few solid UFAs.

Goaltending is really the only major question mark that could be difficult to address.</div></div>

Im not arguing about their current roster players. I consider that their young core. What Im talking about is their prospects in Holtz, L. Hughes, Nemec, etc. They have excellent potential, but that takes time to cultivate. It's very rare that a defenseman reaches their prime before 25, Makar, McAvoy, and Fox are more exceptions than the regular.

Again I think they sell this year but not next year
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:47 p.m.
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