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Forum: Armchair-GM4 hours ago

Thread: 3C for free

Wennberg? As in signed for 3 more years at 4.9M Wennberg?

Forum: Armchair-GM5 hours ago

Thread: Calling all pens fans

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Amplifys</b></div><div>so ur saying hes 2 years out? i dont think so i think he could be NHL ready but it really all depends on who the penguins decide to resign</div></div>

Very rarely do players jump from the Q to the NHL unless they are Laffy level

Forum: Armchair-GM5 hours ago

Thread: Calling all pens fans

Probably at least 1 year in the AHL first

Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago

Thread: some old rumors

That Pens trade is a yikes

Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago

Thread: Without Pietrangelo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sicarius</b></div><div>Haha everyone knew Chicago was giving up way too much when that trade happened. You don’t get to cherry pick a bad deal to validate a warped value of a future trade.

Yes, you can try sometimes to gauge value based on previous trades but every single deal is different. The Blues got Hull for Rob Ramage and Rick Wamsley. That doesn’t mean I’m trading Allen + Barbashev for Panarin.</div></div>

Turbo was the cost for being cap compliant, the exact thing you are trying to do here. How do you not understand that? Regardless of it looking like a bad deal now, there was probably no other option at the time, I'm not sure how I'm cherry picking when I gave you probably the most recent example of a sweetener deal for a 1 year cap dump. If I wanted to cherry pick I would say the Marleau trade, but I didn't. You just cant admit you are way off the mark with your value so you are denying any proof I provide and saying it's outlandish.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago

Thread: number 1 pick value

I mean Vancouver's obviously not moving it if they win. Lets speak hypothetically though, are you looking to move down in the draft? Grab a top end talent prospect? What exactly?

Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago

Thread: Eichel

So many questions here...

Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago

Thread: Without Pietrangelo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sicarius</b></div><div>Why do you insist on focusing on Bozak? It’s not Bozak whose value is returning the 1st, it’s Kostin. I’m not sure if you’re reading at this point.</div></div>

Ok first Kostin is 21 with 4 NHL games, he is currently projected as a middle 6 forward but probably 3rd line. He will not be returning a 1st especially when you are using him as a cap sweetener for a cap dump. If you want an idea, Teuvo Teravainen was traded as a sweetener for Chicago to move Bickell (who was a slightly overpaid competent 3LW for a Cup team). In return Chicago received a mid 2nd and a late 3rd. Now if you think Kostin has the same value as Turbo then sure you can maybe get a 2nd and a 3rd, otherwise probably just a 3rd

Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago

Thread: Without Pietrangelo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sicarius</b></div><div>So you think Backes, who couldn’t crack an NHL roster is the same as Bozak whose a slightly overpaid competent 3C for a Cup team??

Ok</div></div>

I think you are out for lunch if you think any team would offer a 1st for an overpaid 3C (your own words). You would be lucky to get a 3rd

Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago

Thread: Without Pietrangelo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sicarius</b></div><div>It’s one year of Bozak + Kostin who is NHL ready</div></div>

You have this backwards, 1 year of Backes cost Boston a 1st to move. Give Ottawa your first and they might consider

Forum: Mock-Draft8 hours ago

Thread: my mock 2020 draft

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>Dude Raymond and holtz aren’t better than Perfetti. Perfetti is a smart player with a lot of skill and plays with jam. He’s not afraid to go to the dirty areas</div></div>

Ok sure, but why would Detroit select a LW over Rossi, whos a center

Forum: Mock-Draft8 hours ago

Thread: my mock 2020 draft

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>Absolutely not. Perfetti was excellent this year in the OHL. It will be a toss between Rossi and Perfetti but I’ll give the edge to Perfetti because he’s a little bigger and plays with more Jam</div></div>

Raymond is definitely better than Perfetti, Holtz is the better goal scorer. Why would you take Perfetti over either?

Forum: Mock-Draft8 hours ago

Thread: my mock 2020 draft

Perfetti will most certainly not be taken at 4. He is the worst of the 3 wingers outside of the top 3

Forum: Armchair-GM8 hours ago

Thread: Playoffs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DerpNation</b></div><div>You think Janko will earn a starting spot?

If we weren't so weak at C I'd say it would depend big time how he plays in training camp. That 4th line is probably going to get wrecked when Winnipeg has the last change no matter who they have out there lol.</div></div>

Vs a team thats so highly dependent on its offensive pressure you want your bottom 6 filled with as many shut down guys as possible. Why does Winnipeg get last change? Calgary finished above them

Forum: Armchair-GM9 hours ago

Thread: Playoffs

Vs WPG rieder and Jankowski are definitely in

Forum: Armchair-GM11 hours ago

Thread: Adding Hall

Backlund declines

Forum: Mock-Draft11 hours ago

Thread: If MTL gets #9

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CLR</b></div><div>Old rumour I saw that Detroit may want Perfetti but im ain’t sold either</div></div>

Its all a smoke screen, Perfetti definitely has top 6 potential but there are a lot of flaws he needs to fix up first. Also Detroit is definitely not in need of more left wings

Forum: Armchair-GM11 hours ago

Thread: Keeping 8OA

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzmets</b></div><div>If you want to sign him for 8 years he should be around the same cap as Hanafin. Anything shorter and he should be less. 4 x 4 could work pretty well</div></div>

Everything ive read is Montour is getting 5.5M +

Forum: Armchair-GM11 hours ago

Thread: Game 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>depth and goaltending is Calgarys biggest weakness. Their D is great and so is their top 6.</div></div>

Goaltendings a toss up, Rittich has the potential to be Andersen level but needs to show consistency. This playoffs will tell a lot.

Forum: Armchair-GM13 hours ago

Thread: Keeping 8OA

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzmets</b></div><div>I like the moves. I don't think Buffalo should be adding anything in the Calgary deal. Hanafin is an average 2nd pair defenseman. By no means is he elite where he should warrant a massive return</div></div>

It highly depends on Montours next contract. Flames are taking on a lot of unneeded cap here if he cost more than Hanifin. Also Noah is 3 years younger and MoJo is a pending UFA. I probably wouldnt do the 2 for 2 from Flames perspective

Forum: Armchair-GM15 hours ago

Thread: Upgrades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMs</b></div><div>I’ll do Valimaki vs Danault straight up lol but we can’t compare Valimaki and Romanov, not yet</div></div>

You would, but Flames wouldnt. Danault is a 2C rental, Valimaki is Gio's successors and Flames are very high on him. He wasnt moved for Stone he definitely wont be moved for Danault

Forum: Armchair-GM16 hours ago

Thread: Reuniting the Hughes bros

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>I think both teams decline. Hughes didnt show enough for Vancoiver to think it's worth it and NJ probably doesnt risk giving away Hughes early. But right now I dont think Hughes is worth Hoglander Podkolzin and multiple 1st, just a matter of timing</div></div>

I can respect that opinion, Hughes is 5'9 though it should be expected he takes at least a year to transition

Forum: Armchair-GM16 hours ago

Thread: Reuniting the Hughes bros

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>Dont think Hughes get that kind of return after the rookie season he just had.</div></div>

Joe Thornton had 7 points in his rookie season. New Jersey definitely declines this

Forum: Armchair-GM16 hours ago

Thread: calgary fans would you

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Nylander is a 60 point winger based off averages, right? why is he getting this return? does this seem insane or am i just a hater?i know he had a career year but the year before he had a down year.</div></div>

You are right, the trade is absurdly lopsided.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 hours ago

Thread: Just a question

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Wilson value would be more than hes worth imo….. like Nylander for Wilson would be a trade i would need to consider and even at that i would more than likely pass. Wilson is rare in what he adds...unpopular opinion and im a heavy cap bias when it comes to Wilson..

Kuzy a top 4 d man like noah hanifin or like a top 10 pick...something like that. it would have to be something that fits the caps need...</div></div>

You should clarity a young to prime top 4 dman (#3 or better) with term and a good cap hit. Otherwise you are going to get like Trouba, Burns, or Brodin for Kuzy and the caps definitely cant afford that

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