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Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 3:53 a.m.
Thread: JT and Marner gone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>No he was traded on July 1st of 2018 so Buffalo paid his signing bonus</div></div>

Incorrect. That was the entire point of the trade. To move him before the bonus.

https://thehockeywriters.com/revisiting-blues-trade-for-ryan-oreilly/

"Viewed as a cornerstone piece to the Sabres franchise, and a pivotal building block in a long-running Sabres rebuild, O’Reilly’s trade was viewed as one that netted quite a haul for the franchise in an attempt to add multiple pieces to their teams’ depth chart. The deal came down to the wire as O’Reilly was owed a contract bonus worth $7.5 million by the team that owned his contract at midnight. If he remained a member of the Sabres the following day, the price to acquire the forward would have been vastly different. “It certainly, to me, changes the dynamic of anything from an asking price or what we’d be looking for from a trade perspective,” Botterill said."
Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 11:17 a.m.
Thread: Big CGY trade sets up big UFA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DanielSan92</b></div><div>It’s a good thing Yzerman’s not dumb enough to sell firsts for 34 year olds when almost his entire core is still U23 and not in the NHL. 😂

Your ownership probably should’ve taken that first when NJD was offering it, instead of foolishly thinking they could compete if they kept Markstrom.</div></div>

He's just dumb enough to sign Chiarot to that anchor of a contract. The same applies to Vrana, Holl, Husso, and Maatta. I guess that's why you guys are trying to dump those contracts on us.

Didn't Stevie Y, the Wizard, trade for Nick Leddy? Didn't he move up so he can draft Cossa ahead of Wyatt Johnston? That Hronek kid is also doing alright on the first pairing in VAN, but at least you have 36 y.o. Petry as a replacement.

But hey I guess our ownership is stupid for not taking a hypothetical trade. In which Holtz was rumored for retaining 9M on Markstrom, not a 1st.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 29 at 6:05 p.m.
Thread: Leaf trolls here is the only way to get rid of Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>That is absolutely a fair POV but any extension would be made after a trade anyways, when it is signed is less relevant. Gauging what he is looking for in his next deal could either lead to a reality check for Marner or narrow down trade options</div></div>

if im a GM of a contedning team and i acuire marner, and he isnt a 90 point two way winger for me, i would let him walk in FA. imo he is very worth the risk to pay big assets for as a rental but i wouldnt commit long term until i can see that he can have success in whatever system my team employs.

worst case scenerio is you overpay for a 2nd line winger for a year and then get $11 million in cap space in the 2025 off season
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 29 at 6:00 p.m.
Thread: Leaf trolls here is the only way to get rid of Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>draft_em_sign_em_trade_em</b></div><div>And with fans/media/team mates/management are making it obvious that Marner is not in the Leafs long term plans, any team that desires him can and will wait until July 1st 2025, unless Marner gets a cash dump trade with zero value. Or requests a trade (unlikely).</div></div>

Marner getting to pick where he'd potentially go does likely limit what the Leafs could reasonably expect for a return, but I think you're wrong in suggesting there won't be a GM wanting to make a splash this summer that wouldn't give up some assets to make their team better immediately and then have the potential carrot of being able to offer an 8th year if Marner's camp is now open to that idea. GMs don't often wait for a player to hit UFA status if they can land the player they want now, especially if that GM is starting to feel their seat get warm.