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A few more moves

Created by: arafay
Team: 2023-24 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 20, 2023
Published: Jul. 20, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Legend
Left Handed
Original Team
Waivers Exempt
Right Handed
Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Helly comes with a 5x7.5 extension with a full NTC and NMC (mostly comparable to sorokin but drops as he ages):
Y1: 9.5M
Y2: 9M
Y3: 8M
Y4: 6M
Y5: 5M

The best comparable to a helly trade is the Ryan miller trade years ago. Let’s take Ryan miller for example then, even though while miller was good, he was no hellebuyck.

Miller with Ott (bottom 6 player) returned:
1st, 3rd, jaroslav halak (young 1a goaltender), Chris Stewart (middle 6 player), William carrier (recent 2nd rounder). Taking the value drop off from middle-six to bottom-six as a 3rd, let’s simplify: 1st, 3rd (x2), halak, recent 2nd rounder.

Let’s break it down piece by piece. 1st Miller>1st helly (might be 2025 cause of Meier trade conditions). Halak > vanacek. However, let’s just say equal for both for the sake of simplicity. Then the remaining value is: 2 3rds and a recent 2nd rounder.

Now, helly is coming with a pre-negotiated extension and is better than miller and younger at the time of the trade. The jets are also retaining. That has to be worth a fair bit in todays cap. Therefore, instead of 2 3rds, I made it a second and third and daws. And the recent 2nd rounder is Casey.

Anaheim’s d-core is awful and if they want to move Gibson, they need to give him something to help boost his numbers. Gudas and schmidt could form a solid pair and then Stanley on the 3rd pair with a prospect/waiver claim/depth guy would be much better as well. Obviously, just cause it would be good for the ducks doesn’t mean they just take on the cap. Therefore, the jets move Stanley and a 3rd to balance out.

Chisholm for regula is simply to get an asset back. Chisholm unfortunately probably has little value to nhl teams and I don’t see him making the team over heinola (who is a more skilled/finished product imo). Therefore, moving him for a guy more likely to pass through waivers in regula is my preference. He would hopefully go down and then be ready to be called up when needed. If regula does get claimed, we would have lost chisholm anyway so no harm really. However, It is important to note I have regula staying on the roster.

I do think this team makes the playoffs and schiefele ends up staying. I also think demelo and Nino extensions get announced in the year. However, if the jets are missing the playoffs, move Dillon and brossiot to the highest bidders. If schiefele, demelo, and nino won’t sign, move them too. Also shop Iaffalo and Pionk just to see what’s out there.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,200,000
Trades
1.
WPG
    Future considerations
    ANA
    1. Schmidt, Nate
    2. Stanley, Logan [RFA Rights]
    3. 2024 3rd round pick (WPG)
    2.
    BOS
    1. Chisholm, Declan [RFA Rights]
    3.
    WPG
    1. Casey, Seamus [Reserve List]
    2. Daws, Nico
    3. Vanecek, Vitek
    4. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
    5. 2024 3rd round pick (NJD)
    6. 2025 2nd round pick (NJD)
    NJD
    1. Hellebuyck, Connor ($3,083,333 retained)
    Additional Details:
    Pick is conditional on the Meier trade. Also top 3 protected
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2024
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    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the WPG
    2025
    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the WPG
    2026
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,500,000$76,150,357$0$1,275,000$7,349,643

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $6,125,000$6,125,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $3,437,500$3,437,500
    RW, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $7,142,857$7,142,857
    LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $2,166,667$2,166,667
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $1,350,000$1,350,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $1,200,000$1,200,000
    C, LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $6,250,000$6,250,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New Jersey Devils
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $5,875,000$5,875,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $3,900,000$3,900,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $775,000$775,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $762,500$762,500
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Boston Bruins
    $775,000$775,000
    RD
    RFA - 1

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    Jul. 20, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
    #1
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    Way too much for Hellebuyck. I don't know that they'd move Casey, and if they did you wouldn't get nearly this much

    I value Casey as a top prospect, not a typical second rounder
    Jul. 20, 2023 at 9:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: pretzelcoatl
    Way too much for Hellebuyck. I don't know that they'd move Casey, and if they did you wouldn't get nearly this much

    I value Casey as a top prospect, not a typical second rounder


    Hmm interesting. Tbh I don’t, which is why I have him here. Maybe replace with their second best prospect then? Lol. Tbh, he’s just a placeholder. Solid player who has some potential.

    Also, as I showed based on previous trade history, this is how much it costs to get a starting goaltender long term. And if you look at it, a late 1st, 2nd, and 3rd + daws, vanacek and a former 2nd is crazy when you are getting a vezina winner back. I didn’t ask for holtz.
    Jul. 20, 2023 at 9:16 p.m.
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    CH is not returning that, even with a decent contract
    Jul. 20, 2023 at 9:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: Smitty426
    CH is not returning that, even with a decent contract


    I laid out my argument, what’s yours?
    Jul. 20, 2023 at 9:19 p.m.
    #5
    n.1 Topias Vilen fan
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    Quoting: arafay
    Hmm interesting. Tbh I don’t, which is why I have him here. Maybe replace with their second best prospect then? Lol. Tbh, he’s just a placeholder. Solid player who has some potential.

    Also, as I showed based on previous trade history, this is how much it costs.


    There are five prospects I would not move: Hughes, Nemec, Holtz, Casey, and Schmid. I would move any other prospect along with Vanecek and a 1st. Gritsyuk is the best prospect I would move, but since he's 21 (2019 draft) and will be in the KHL for 2 more years I'm not sure he's of interest even though he's a great prospect. That leaves Hameenaho, Foote, Vilen, and Clarke as the rest of my personal top 10. Of them, Hameenaho has the highest upside and Foote is the most NHL ready.

    Edit: Thinking further, I don't think I'd send a 1st along with Gritsyuk but again I don't think he's a good trade piece until he comes to NA
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