Getting Duchene

depending on how long vatanen is hurt, i bet you if this was offered to sakic he would take it for sure. a top 4 D, a good D prospect, a first, second, and another prospect.

I would say that this is way to much. Vats is worth at least 2 first rounders, then we add another first and a former first round pick who hasn't done anything to drop in value. So right now we're up to 4 first rounders. Then we add a second and Pettersson who was also a second and hasn't dropped in value and looked pretty good in the prospect camp. Its commonly considered that 2 seconds is close to a first in value. So we are looking at roughly 5 first rounders for Duchene for 2 years with 2 mill retained which might not be enough retained with raises to Manson, Montour, Ritchie and Cogs. I would love Duchene but that price is BAD. You take out Jones and the 1st and I consider it.

"roughly 5 firsts." Man, that is some shite awful math...

The undersized, often injured Vatanen is in no way worth two firsts, unless they were 30 and 31. He's a great player with a lot of offensive upside, but he isn't that damned valuable. Lindholm is better, and I am not even sure you'd get two firsts for him... Maybe though, and he'd certainly be more deserving of that amount than Vatanen...

To the original poster, this isn't bad, but you are overpaying a little bit. Not as much as others suggested, but still. You don't need to give up all of that package even for retention. Dutch's price is dropping. Sakic is a moron. Go fishing with less.

Not sure if this deal would get Duchene? Are you kidding. No way I'd give all of that up for 2 years of Duchene

I guess my next question is, do you take out the 2nd rounder and keep it the same? Maybe take out Jones for someone else who still has a very good upside but may not fit into our lineup?





That is my thought. Makes up cup contenders for the next 2 years for sure and we save roughly a million from vats and have Bieksa, Cogs, Vermette, Boll, Beauchemin, coming off the books plus the if the cap goes up and the free space we have now, we could have about $18 in cap space to resign players and be great before Steel makes the jump.