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Caps are a dark horse for Kane + cap dump

Created by: BrianMacLeonsis
Team: 2017-18 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 23, 2018
Published: Feb. 23, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Orpik, Brooks
  2. 2019 4th round pick (WSH)
2.
WSH
  1. Kane, Evander ($2,625,000 retained)
BUF
  1. Bowey, Madison
  2. Connolly, Brett
  3. 2018 2nd round pick (FLA)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
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2019
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2020
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$75,000,000$63,908,440$4,978$500,000$11,091,560
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$9,538,462$9,538,462
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$6,700,000$6,700,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
$2,625,000$2,625,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
UFA - 8
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW
UFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C
UFA - 1
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 8
$650,000$650,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$660,000$660,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$1,275,000$1,275,000
LD
UFA - 6
$5,750,000$5,750,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$6,100,000$6,100,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$650,000$650,000
LD
UFA - 2
$3,966,667$3,966,667
RD
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
LD
UFA - 1
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 23, 2018 at 10:27 a.m.
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Give Orpik to Buffalo, Buffalo adds Gorges, up the pick to a top20 protected 1st.

Kane, Gorges (both half retained) for Connolly, Bowey, a 1st and Orpik.
Feb. 23, 2018 at 10:29 a.m.
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Quoting: Jbarre6
Give Orpik to Buffalo, Buffalo adds Gorges, up the pick to a top20 protected 1st.

Kane, Gorges (both half retained) for Connolly, Bowey, a 1st and Orpik.


That’s certainly intriguing until you go with the 1st. I’m okay with doing the 1st in 2019 not 2018. Is Gorges a lefty?
Feb. 23, 2018 at 10:29 a.m.
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A dark horse for Kane? Seriously?
Feb. 23, 2018 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Bluejackets2000
A dark horse for Kane? Seriously?


Yea man nobody has talked about the Caps so far but the track record with them is that they have tried to get Kane twice already. The price is dropping so I could see them stepping up. Nobody talked about NJD and Grabner
Feb. 23, 2018 at 10:37 a.m.
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Quoting: BrianMacLeonsis
That’s certainly intriguing until you go with the 1st. I’m okay with doing the 1st in 2019 not 2018. Is Gorges a lefty?


Yes Gorges is a lefty. And fine, 2019 1st.
Feb. 23, 2018 at 11:26 a.m.
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Orpik for Schenn is great salary cap math, now that the Caps have two fill-ins at left D who almost add up to Orpik's plus Djoos' minutes.. except that they don't quite get there, and the Caps are fine at right D Adding a fourth is fine, because I can't think of any current Capital who was drafted in the fourth round by the Capitals. Maybe one of their goalies? But they tend to throw away their fourth rounders, so why worry.

Bowey and Connelly is an overpayment for Kane. Bowey's one of the top ten rookie defensemen in points, and he already scores points faster at even strength than Mike Green. Now, Kane is better than Green, but he's not Green better than Connelly. Connelly is on pace for 22 goals this year if he played 82 games, is a year younger, and is under contract next year at 1.5M. Connelly was picked two spots later than Kane in a different draft, hasn't caught on with coaches enough to play a full season Last year he was on pace for 19 goals, but he was a healthy scratch and only got 15. This year he'll end up around the same level, for the same reason. If he were on a bad team like Buffalo where he was relied on as a top six winger, instead of stuck in third and fourth line checking roles, Connelly would have as many points as Kane. Kane has four more even strength goals than Connelly this year, and a bunch more assists, but not Bowey more assists, and those four goals came in a dozen more games played, twice as many minutes per game played, and 5% more offensivezone starts, but only 3% better corsi, and twice as negative a plus/minus

Frankly, Connelly is almost as good as Kane, and is signed cheaply through next year. In a salary cap league, I wouldn't trade them straight up. And then you ask if Buffalo can dump on Gorges' contract?

Gorges plays 14 minutes a night on one of the worst teams in the NHL, and has two points this year, and a relative corsi of -3. His unadjusted corsi is better than his zone starts, which would make him intriguing, but his lack of minutes or offense puts him beind Djoos on this year's Caps.

As a left D in Hershey he will slot behind Ness (who has the same corsi and zone starts, and one point in just eight games, putting him on pace for ten a year in the NHL this year) and Johansen (who is better than Ness but in the AHL because they don't want to rush a top prospect), and at 33 years old he's not a prospect, just a fourmillion dollar road block in front of guys like Siegenthaler. Pass. We've been over this. As someone who has read every Caps AGM in teh last three months and discussed Gorges four times, and agreed wit other Caps and Sabres fans that he didn't fit, even before the Caps added Kempny and Jerabek in front of him, I don't understand why it is being brought up again.
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gorgejo01.html

If the Sabres want to trade Josh Gorges for Brooks Orpik, they'd better throw in Kane and retain half on each.
Feb. 23, 2018 at 11:28 a.m.
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Forgot to rate. Negative five stars for trading Connelly for someone equal to him, four times as expensive, and not signed next year. Negative ten stars for throwing in one of the top ten rookie defensemen in the NHL this year. Plus five stars on Orpik for Schenn, and throwing in a sweetener that is meaningless to the Caps.

Total: negative five stars.
Feb. 23, 2018 at 2:58 p.m.
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Forgot to rate. Negative five stars for trading Connelly for someone equal to him, four times as expensive, and not signed next year. Negative ten stars for throwing in one of the top ten rookie defensemen in the NHL this year. Plus five stars on Orpik for Schenn, and throwing in a sweetener that is meaningless to the Caps.

Total: negative five stars.


You’re insane.
Feb. 23, 2018 at 3:26 p.m.
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Quoting: BrianMacLeonsis
You’re insane.


So what? I supported my analysis with statistics and facts. Yours is a matter of opinion, and you are entitled to it.
Feb. 23, 2018 at 3:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
So what? I supported my analysis with statistics and facts. Yours is a matter of opinion, and you are entitled to it.


Kane and Connolly aren’t even comparable
 
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