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Created by: skriko
Team: 2017-18 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 16, 2018
Published: May 16, 2018
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Trades
MTL
  1. Heiskanen, Miro
  2. 2018 1st round pick (DAL)
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2018
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2019
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
26$75,000,000$61,650,475$0$607,500$13,349,525
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
$4,900,000$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 5
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
$1,166,667$1,166,667
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$912,500$912,500
C
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$839,166$839,166
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$725,000$725,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$725,000$725,000
LW
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
C
UFA - 2
$650,000$650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 9
$6,500,000$6,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333
RD
UFA - 3
$748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 3
$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4

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May 16, 2018 at 12:58 p.m.
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Not in a million years. Heiskanen is NHL ready. Heiskanen alone is worth more than Pacioretty.
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May 16, 2018 at 1:07 p.m.
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Do you want Benn and Seguin too?
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May 16, 2018 at 1:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Hedman77
Do you want Benn and Seguin too?


Love how overrated patches o hoolahan is.
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May 16, 2018 at 1:40 p.m.
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Love how overrated patches o hoolahan is.


Is he really that over rated? 6x 30+ goal seasons before the age of 29. not all that bad.
Since his first full season (2011) he is currently 9th in goals scored since then. 5th in EVG in that span.

I'm not saying that the trade proposed is close, but I think he has value. If you look at the company he is in from 2011, he is scoring at the same rate as Kessel, Kane, Marchand, and Benn at half the cap cost. yes he is due for a raise the following season but he is no the less a fantastic goal scorer if anything.
May 16, 2018 at 2:18 p.m.
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Is he really that over rated? 6x 30+ goal seasons before the age of 29. not all that bad.
Since his first full season (2011) he is currently 9th in goals scored since then. 5th in EVG in that span.

I'm not saying that the trade proposed is close, but I think he has value. If you look at the company he is in from 2011, he is scoring at the same rate as Kessel, Kane, Marchand, and Benn at half the cap cost. yes he is due for a raise the following season but he is no the less a fantastic goal scorer if anything.


Yes he is a good goal Scorer . But what happens if he doesn't return to that form?.. Now that's a serious bet. Considering the talent you're giving away on the hopes he can rekindle that scoring touch.
May 16, 2018 at 2:26 p.m.
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Quoting: vinnylou
Yes he is a good goal Scorer . But what happens if he doesn't return to that form?.. Now that's a serious bet. Considering the talent you're giving away on the hopes he can rekindle that scoring touch.


return to form ??? what like LUCIC
May 16, 2018 at 3:12 p.m.
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Yes he is a good goal Scorer . But what happens if he doesn't return to that form?.. Now that's a serious bet. Considering the talent you're giving away on the hopes he can rekindle that scoring touch.


ya you never know. I think with Canadiens, everything possible went wrong. If I was dallas, i wouldn't make the trade, but as a Hab fan, I wouldn't be shocked if he gets traded somewhere for half his value and scores 40 when he gets to play with an actual Center, not Someone named David Deharnouis or Danualt or Tomas Pleckanec
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May 16, 2018 at 3:59 p.m.
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ya you never know. I think with Canadiens, everything possible went wrong. If I was dallas, i wouldn't make the trade, but as a Hab fan, I wouldn't be shocked if he gets traded somewhere for half his value and scores 40 when he gets to play with an actual Center, not Someone named David Deharnouis or Danualt or Tomas Pleckanec


Ya. Idk why you guys didn't trade subban for a centre. You could have probably pulled a really nice one!
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May 16, 2018 at 5:36 p.m.
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Ya. Idk why you guys didn't trade subban for a centre. You could have probably pulled a really nice one!


honestly the weirdest trade every. why trade a Rh #1 Dman for another RH#1 Dman? haha. oh well. I like shea Webers game, hopefully that old body holds together for a while. but i think Subban got traded because of off ice issues within the room. I have been told by guys who played with him in MTL and on their farm team back in the day, that he is widely hated/disliked in the room...even referring to him as "Monday", because everyone hates Mondays haha.
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May 16, 2018 at 5:44 p.m.
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honestly the weirdest trade every. why trade a Rh #1 Dman for another RH#1 Dman? haha. oh well. I like shea Webers game, hopefully that old body holds together for a while. but i think Subban got traded because of off ice issues within the room. I have been told by guys who played with him in MTL and on their farm team back in the day, that he is widely hated/disliked in the room...even referring to him as "Monday", because everyone hates Mondays haha.


Same type of reason why hall got traded
May 16, 2018 at 6:18 p.m.
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Same type of reason why hall got traded


It seemed to me that most of the players like Hall, but management and coaches didn't like his perceived attitude when things went wrong(slamming sticks, hands in the air, just seemed mad). I liked that, showed me everytime I went to a game, he wanted to win.
Also doesnt help that Chai isn't even qualified to run a fantasy Hockey team.
May 16, 2018 at 7:29 p.m.
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It seemed to me that most of the players like Hall, but management and coaches didn't like his perceived attitude when things went wrong(slamming sticks, hands in the air, just seemed mad). I liked that, showed me everytime I went to a game, he wanted to win.
Also doesnt help that Chai isn't even qualified to run a fantasy Hockey team.


Exact opposite bro lol. He walked past his teammates out at restaurants. Told rnh and eberle to always pass it to him in the offensive zone. Said..lander was lucky to play with a guy of his skill bc he's never played with someone like him before. Haha.
May 17, 2018 at 10:36 a.m.
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Exact opposite bro lol. He walked past his teammates out at restaurants. Told rnh and eberle to always pass it to him in the offensive zone. Said..lander was lucky to play with a guy of his skill bc he's never played with someone like him before. Haha.


haha well, he wasn't entirely wrong about any of those comments, especially Lander one haha
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May 17, 2018 at 1:02 p.m.
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haha well, he wasn't entirely wrong about any of those comments, especially Lander one haha


But is that a good team mate??
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May 17, 2018 at 3:42 p.m.
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But is that a good team mate??


haha obviously not
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May 17, 2018 at 3:59 p.m.
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Yes he is a good goal Scorer . But what happens if he doesn't return to that form?.. Now that's a serious bet. Considering the talent you're giving away on the hopes he can rekindle that scoring touch.


Not saying this deal is fair because it isn't but:

Why is fair to question "will Pacioretty find is form?" but Its a forgone conclusion that Heiskanen will be a superstar? Heiskanen may end up being just like many other top 3 picks. Dylan Strome, Erik Gudbransen, Bogosian, etc. Who'd be laughing then?

I get it, this trade based off last year isn't fair as Pacioretty had a bad year and his vaue is at an all time low but everyone assumes prospects will all hit their highest potential and be superstars too. Heiskanen could end up being a decent but still not as good as Pacioretty, type player. That's isn't an impossible scenario.
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