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Team: 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 19, 2018
Published: Jun. 19, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$700,000
2$700,000
2$650,000
3$800,000
5$4,500,000
1$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$650,000
2$1,850,000
Dahlin, Rasmus
3$925,000
2$700,000
2$975,000
Trades
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MIN
  1. Bogosian, Zach ($2,571,428 retained)
  2. Larsson, Johan
Additional Details:
The rights to Nicholas Baptiste
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3.
WSH
  1. Bailey, Justin
  2. Beaulieu, Nathan
  3. 2019 4th round pick (SJS)
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$80,000,000$61,750,595$0$1,350,000$18,249,405
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 4
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 8
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 4
$1,875,000$1,875,000
C
UFA - 5
$3,200,000$3,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$650,000$650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$650,000$650,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$5,600,000$5,600,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000$925,000
$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$975,000$975,000
RD
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
$812,500$812,500
RD
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:17 a.m.
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You really need that many centers? I mean, instead of Rask maybe try n trade for a left winger, like Teräväinen. They were shopping him last year and he could be a fit in BUF.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:24 a.m.
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Quoting: OshietheBeast
You really need that many centers? I mean, instead of Rask maybe try n trade for a left winger, like Teräväinen. They were shopping him last year and he could be a fit in BUF.


They arent shopping him now, Teräväinen had a huge year. Rask I would move out of center, lighten his load and put him with Eichel. Rask has proven he can score, Eichel and Reinhart let him simplify his game and let him do his thing.
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Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:29 a.m.
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They arent shopping him now, Teräväinen had a huge year. Rask I would move out of center, lighten his load and put him with Eichel. Rask has proven he can score, Eichel and Reinhart let him simplify his game and let him do his thing.


Yea, but they could be shopping him after this seasom again or at the deadline. The fact is, they have many young players on expiring contracts who they will keep, like Sebastian Aho. So someone has to go. And Rask is signed already so I'd move Teräväinen, who needs a new deal after next season. Plus, they've got Svechnikov coming on the wing as well in the draft, so they don't have the space in their lineups.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:32 a.m.
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Yea, but they could be shopping him after this seasom again or at the deadline. The fact is, they have many young players on expiring contracts who they will keep, like Sebastian Aho. So someone has to go. And Rask is signed already so I'd move Teräväinen, who needs a new deal after next season. Plus, they've got Svechnikov coming on the wing as well in the draft, so they don't have the space in their lineups.


I would love Teräväinen, I dont know what they would want from Buffalo to get him
Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:36 a.m.
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I would love Teräväinen, I dont know what they would want from Buffalo to get him


Well, that's the thing. What they really, REALLY need is goaltending. Buffalo doesn't have much to offer on that, but they're pretty much set in all other aspects. Of course if you want to go big, they need a true #1 center, so ROR could be in the talks, but then the deal.has to get bigger. Like Faulk needs to be involved. That could work well too.
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Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:38 a.m.
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An Ennis buyout would be less of a cap hit than taking on Bogo at half price. I'd also rather have Prosser over Bogo, at least Prosser will be healthy. Those 3 are basically a wash in value (nobody wants any of them).

Coyle for Larsson+Baptiste doesn't interest me.

Buffalo really is better off holding on to Bogo and hope he's healthy and then dump him somewhere for a positive return. Him being healthy is just too much of a gamble after the last few seasons.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:42 a.m.
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An Ennis buyout would be less of a cap hit than taking on Bogo at half price. I'd also rather have Prosser over Bogo, at least Prosser will be healthy. Those 3 are basically a wash in value (nobody wants any of them).

Coyle for Larsson+Baptiste doesn't interest me.

Buffalo really is better off holding on to Bogo and hope he's healthy and then dump him somewhere for a positive return. Him being healthy is just too much of a gamble after the last few seasons.


Yea, or just acquiring a good defenseman like Faulk and just flat out buying Bogosian out. He would count only 1,14M against the cap for the next two seasons and 2M for two seasons after that if he's now bought out. Cos like you said, he's been out.most of.the time anyway and hasn't looked very good when he's on the ice.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:43 a.m.
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I'm not giving up assets for Orpik; I'd rather just keep Scandella
The first trade is overly involved but I don't mind the idea of acquiring Coyle.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:46 a.m.
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I'm not giving up assets for Orpik; I'd rather just keep Scandella
The first trade is overly involved but I don't mind the idea of acquiring Coyle.


Like it or not, Orpik is a fantastic leader. He taught so many young guys in WSH. Buffalo would love him.
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Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:51 a.m.
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Like it or not, Orpik is a fantastic leader. He taught so many young guys in WSH. Buffalo would love him.


Certainly, not worth multiple assets. Maybe Beaulieu (50%) or just the SJS 4th would be fair seeing as we are giving you guys cap relief to keep your team together.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:55 a.m.
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Certainly, not worth multiple assets. Maybe Beaulieu (50%) or just the SJS 4th would be fair seeing as we are giving you guys cap relief to keep your team together.


Lol, caps have plenty of room to sign everyone they need to. If/when the cap goes to 80M, they have nearly 19M room. And only significant signings would be Wilson and Carlson. So no help needed there. And that's all while keeping Orpik, which they're likely to do anyway.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:55 a.m.
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Lol, caps have plenty of room to sign everyone they need to. If/when the cap goes to 80M, they have nearly 19M room. And only significant signings would be Wilson and Carlson. So no help needed there. And that's all while keeping Orpik, which they're likely to do anyway.


so be it
Jun. 19, 2018 at 1:57 a.m.
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An Ennis buyout would be less of a cap hit than taking on Bogo at half price. I'd also rather have Prosser over Bogo, at least Prosser will be healthy. Those 3 are basically a wash in value (nobody wants any of them).

Coyle for Larsson+Baptiste doesn't interest me.

Buffalo really is better off holding on to Bogo and hope he's healthy and then dump him somewhere for a positive return. Him being healthy is just too much of a gamble after the last few seasons.


Bogo has considerably better stats when healthy than Prosser, and when out, he doesnt hurt their cap. Wouldnt they sign Murphy cheap too anyway. Bogo is a pretty good Dman, his injuries issues ruined his career, but if they get 60-65 games out of him as their 3rd pair RHD, he'll be well worth the money and the D would be dangerous. I think its a low risk gamble and gives them 2 years to develop some RHD replacements. Baptiste is going to be way cheaper than Coyle and could produce close to his level from last year. He has scored well at the AHL level, but keeps getting relegated to 4th line roles in Buffalo to "teach him the 2 way game." When he got a chance to play with some talent, he looked pretty good. Instead of a buyout they roll some dice, if it doesnt work then they didnt lose much while saving a ton of cap space to resign their important RFAs.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 2:00 a.m.
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Yea, or just acquiring a good defenseman like Faulk and just flat out buying Bogosian out. He would count only 1,14M against the cap for the next two seasons and 2M for two seasons after that if he's now bought out. Cos like you said, he's been out.most of.the time anyway and hasn't looked very good when he's on the ice.


Buffalo isn't really in a cap bind so they can absorb Bogo for another season or two. If he has any type of a decent/healthy season next year he'll have at least a little positive value because of his RD position.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 2:01 a.m.
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Yea, or just acquiring a good defenseman like Faulk and just flat out buying Bogosian out. He would count only 1,14M against the cap for the next two seasons and 2M for two seasons after that if he's now bought out. Cos like you said, he's been out.most of.the time anyway and hasn't looked very good when he's on the ice.


in 2016-17 Bogo looked like a 2 RHD dman, in the preseason last year, he looked motivated and he was super excited to play under Housley. He'd definitely be over qualified for the 3 RHD spot.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 2:08 a.m.
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in 2016-17 Bogo looked like a 2 RHD dman, in the preseason last year, he looked motivated and he was super excited to play under Housley. He'd definitely be over qualified for the 3 RHD spot.


Can't say I agree with that. He's a 2nd or 3rd pair Dman. Faulk would be a puck moving Dman, just like Dahlin is. Never hurts to have those around. Caps had 3 of them this season.
Plus I've always liked Bogosiam, he's big and strong, but I think it has only hurt his game that he was #3 pick in the draft.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 2:14 a.m.
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Can't say I agree with that. He's a 2nd or 3rd pair Dman. Faulk would be a puck moving Dman, just like Dahlin is. Never hurts to have those around. Caps had 3 of them this season.
Plus I've always liked Bogosiam, he's big and strong, but I think it has only hurt his game that he was #3 pick in the draft.


Im not comparing him to Faulk lol, but i think people like to trash him cause he gets hurt, doesnt mean hes bad at what he does
Jun. 19, 2018 at 2:18 a.m.
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Im not comparing him to Faulk lol, but i think people like to trash him cause he gets hurt, doesnt mean hes bad at what he does


He's not bad. His value isn't very high cause he's very prone to injuries, that's all. He's big and strong, everything you need in front of your own net, cos forwards these days are that as well. Gotta have that mean guy to wrestle with guys like Willy in front of the net.?
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Jun. 19, 2018 at 2:23 a.m.
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Bogo has considerably better stats when healthy than Prosser, and when out, he doesnt hurt their cap. Wouldnt they sign Murphy cheap too anyway. Bogo is a pretty good Dman, his injuries issues ruined his career, but if they get 60-65 games out of him as their 3rd pair RHD, he'll be well worth the money and the D would be dangerous. I think its a low risk gamble and gives them 2 years to develop some RHD replacements. Baptiste is going to be way cheaper than Coyle and could produce close to his level from last year. He has scored well at the AHL level, but keeps getting relegated to 4th line roles in Buffalo to "teach him the 2 way game." When he got a chance to play with some talent, he looked pretty good. Instead of a buyout they roll some dice, if it doesnt work then they didnt lose much while saving a ton of cap space to resign their important RFAs.


Prosser is the ideal 6/7 d-man. He's cheap, reliable, and plays a steady game. He's not going to light the world on fire but for 10 mins a night I'll take him even with his warts. The expected 3rd pair isn't really a concern for MN. I'd rather try to get Folin back for ~$1m and fill that slot for free.

Baptiste would have a 50/50 shot of making the Wild out of camp. Even then it would be in a bottom-6 role. I don't see him being a ~40p player next season. It's not even a given that Buf doesn't send Baptise through waivers to start next season. There is a chance he could be gotten for nothing then.

Coyle wasn't good last year but the torn ligaments in both his wrists and the broken leg. I'm not concerned about him being injury prone he played something like 300 straight games before this season.

I don't have a problem with the Wild getting Larsson or Baptise, but I wouldn't pay much for either of them as bottom-6 fillers. Greenway and Kunin could probably have similar production as either of them filling the spots from within.

I'm all for the Wild taking a gamble this offseason, but this one seems like a really bad bet.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 2:40 a.m.
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Prosser is the ideal 6/7 d-man. He's cheap, reliable, and plays a steady game. He's not going to light the world on fire but for 10 mins a night I'll take him even with his warts. The expected 3rd pair isn't really a concern for MN. I'd rather try to get Folin back for ~$1m and fill that slot for free.

Baptiste would have a 50/50 shot of making the Wild out of camp. Even then it would be in a bottom-6 role. I don't see him being a ~40p player next season. It's not even a given that Buf doesn't send Baptise through waivers to start next season. There is a chance he could be gotten for nothing then.

Coyle wasn't good last year but the torn ligaments in both his wrists and the broken leg. I'm not concerned about him being injury prone he played something like 300 straight games before this season.

I don't have a problem with the Wild getting Larsson or Baptise, but I wouldn't pay much for either of them as bottom-6 fillers. Greenway and Kunin could probably have similar production as either of them filling the spots from within.

I'm all for the Wild taking a gamble this offseason, but this one seems like a really bad bet.


Baptiste would probably have more than a 50/50 shot if they have to fill 3 RW and 4 RW. Baptiste is much further along in his development than Kunin (and doesnt have the pedigree Baptiste has) and Greenway plays the opposite side. Botts wouldnt send him through waivers. Thats why they dumped Fasching. Baptiste right now is their 3 RW.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 4:49 a.m.
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Baptiste would probably have more than a 50/50 shot if they have to fill 3 RW and 4 RW. Baptiste is much further along in his development than Kunin (and doesnt have the pedigree Baptiste has) and Greenway plays the opposite side. Botts wouldnt send him through waivers. Thats why they dumped Fasching. Baptiste right now is their 3 RW.


I'll take Kunin's USDP, College, and international pedigree over Baptiste's OHL years. Kunin even had slightly better AHL stats in his first pro season than Baptiste had this year. Baptiste is behind Reinhart, Okposso, and Pommer and possibly Nylander for a NHL RW spot in Buffalo. Pu is waiting in the wings for a shot too within a year or two. The only reason I gave him a 50/50 shot at making the Wild is because they have Coyle as the only RHS currently in the NHL. Downgrading from Coyle to Baptise in that department isn't the way to go.

It's a bad trade for Minny. Coyle is a better center than Larsson and a better wing than Baptiste.
Jun. 19, 2018 at 9:17 a.m.
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I'll take Kunin's USDP, College, and international pedigree over Baptiste's OHL years. Kunin even had slightly better AHL stats in his first pro season than Baptiste had this year. Baptiste is behind Reinhart, Okposso, and Pommer and possibly Nylander for a NHL RW spot in Buffalo. Pu is waiting in the wings for a shot too within a year or two. The only reason I gave him a 50/50 shot at making the Wild is because they have Coyle as the only RHS currently in the NHL. Downgrading from Coyle to Baptise in that department isn't the way to go.

It's a bad trade for Minny. Coyle is a better center than Larsson and a better wing than Baptiste.

Nylander has been on the left and Baptiste is ahead of Pommer. Pommer doesn’t fit anymore. As I said everyone outside Sabres fans underestimate him just by looking at his goals and assists
 
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