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Forum: NHL TradesOct. 21, 2020 at 6:04 p.m.
Thread: (CGY / CAR) - Hanifin, Lindholm for Hamilton, Fox, Ferland
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Missouri</b></div><div>What do yall think now</div></div>

Still a big Win for Calgary! Hanifin has turned into a solid top 4 dman. Lindholm good goal scorer and top 6 forward. The Hurricanes don't have Fox or Ferland anymore and Hamilton is a locker room cancer. So ya i stick to my previous reasons. Calgary wins.[/quote]

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Missouri</b></div><div>What do yall think now</div></div>

Still a big Win for Calgary! Hanifin has turned into a solid top 4 dman. Lindholm good goal scorer and top 6 forward. The Hurricanes don't have Fox or Ferland anymore and Hamilton is a locker room cancer. So ya i stick to my previous reasons. Calgary wins.[/quote]

I think this was honestly a win-win in hindsight. Hamilton has truly potential to be a top 5 defender in the league and Lindholm has found a great spot in Calgary, something he could never quite reach in Carolina. Now Hanifin is nothing like Hamilton, especially offensively, but he's a young stud and has room to grow. I can't say if Hamilton is bad for locker room, but doubt it. He's a fantastic defender and last season was one of the best, and he has the statistics to back it up.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 5, 2020 at 12:31 p.m.
Forum: NHL TradesFeb. 5, 2019 at 6:04 a.m.
Thread: (CGY / CAR) - Hanifin, Lindholm for Hamilton, Fox, Ferland
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drewjenks</b></div><div><strong>"Undermining me makes you feel smarter?"</strong>

No it doesn't....I just pointed out that you gave an opinion &amp; then supported it with unrelated evidence.
And that the stats tend to disagree with your opinion (though I'm aware that stats aren't everything).

With that said....

<strong>Undermining 24 year old Dougie Hamiltons character makes you feel smarter?</strong> - This comment can go both ways.

His behavior was never a problem.
He's quieter than most hockey players &amp; may be a bit on the neurotic side (intelligence alone doesn't get you a 99% average in high-school).
There are a lot nerds in the world....they just don't usually play in the NHL....which might have made him an oddball in a locker room full of bro's.
That doesn't mean he's immature or has behavioral problems....just different than whats normal in his environment.

<strong>In terms of the trade.....Given Dougie's age &amp; talent....a smart organization would have:</strong>

1. Worked with professionals to help him improve relationships &amp; assimilate to the environment.
2. Traded for other (good) players with similar personality types....to help balance out the dressing room.

<strong>Instead....Calgary:</strong>

1. Traded him for a similar &amp; younger....but vastly inferior player in Hanafin (his highest upside is what Dougie is now).
2. Swapped forwards with similar talent &amp; potential.
3. Gave away their best defensive prospect (possibly their best prospect in general).

Even if Fox wasn't going to sign in Calgary....he had plenty of trade value on his own....and didn't have to be shoe-horned into this deal.

<strong>Calgary lost this trade....and Dougie was worth the full return on his own.
Carolina is about to get a lot better....and DeHaan is just as good as Hanafin at the moment (just less potential).</strong>

I'M A LEAF FAN....SO I'M NOT SPECIFICALLY TRYING TO BE BIASED HERE.
BUT IT SEEMS THAT WE DO HAVE A BAD REP....SO TAKE THIS AS YOU'D LIKE.</div></div>


How bout now?
Forum: NHL TradesJul. 4, 2018 at 4:40 a.m.
Thread: (CGY / CAR) - Hanifin, Lindholm for Hamilton, Fox, Ferland
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drewjenks</b></div><div><strong>"He's 25 and been traded twice. That's far from elite"</strong>

That literally has NOTHING AT ALL to do with what he does on the ice.....

His stats are elite though.....regular ones&amp; advanced ones.....I'm sure that's irrelevant to you though.</div></div>

Undermining me makes you feel smarter? Lmao. Stats are important, and of course no one can deny that his performance on the ice might sometimes be on an elite level, his off ice behaviour or locker room presence causes disfunction in the teams that he has played in. If he was simply immature, like Seguin and Carter were before they were traded, he wouldn't have been traded twice already. There's something that you and I can't see that makes him not wanted in teams.