im glad you threw the 50th pick in '19 in there to even it out.... with that being said Draisatl is alot more valuable than parayko 1 for 1

the Panarin trade is really off base as well

Draisaitl has more value, but not all that much more considering he isn't Edmonton's number one center. I'd probably give the second round pick this year and not next.
Panarin's value depends on Columbus's view of Kyrou. I almost threw in Dubinsky from Columbus to even the playing field on that one. Berglund is signed for term to give them depth and Davidson and Jarmo Kekalainen are fans of his considering they drafted him.

i just meant when you are dealing players of that calibre there is no point in throwing in a 2nd round pick like its a 1 for 1 and id take the 2 way C who is younger

i think the Panarin concept at this point is necessary overpayment or nothing atleast until mid season...A fair offer is not going to get it done...would you do Kyrou+Fabbri+1st if you knew an extension was imminent?

If it's an agreed sign and trade, Kyrou+Fabbri+2018 First is worth it.

Also, Edmonton already has another 2 way center in Nugent-Hopkins. He's not as good as Draisaitl but they still have plenty of depth

i suppose, IMO the most efficient way to be routinely successful in this league is to stack at C position. I think MCD-Drai-RNH should stick together if oilers can handle the cap

I agree Blues will have to give more to get Drai, probably their 1st and a prospect or maybe take on Lucic with a little retention.

Also agree with the Panarin deal, if he goes anywhere it is going to be a massive over payment right now. Just because he doesn't want to sign an extension right now does not mean they have to trade him. Yes they are testing the market to see what teams are willing to give up, but they wont make a deal unless they feel it is too great to resist.

Would think Blues would be giving up your mentioned trade Kyrou, Fabbri and 1st and more

Bottom two GMs? Both inaccurate and extremely childish lol. Chiarelli for sure - Armstrong though? Imagine if we had Bergevin, Dorion, Tallon, Chiarelli etc etc. We would've traded Tarasenko or Pietrangelo for nothing by now.



By end of season RNH was on McDavid's wing.

12.5+8.5+6 is 27 million on 3 centers which is more than 2/3rds right now. That's pretty unsustainable

i did like that look but i felt tht was more because season was sputtered and they wanted to guarantee top line production. In future keeping them all at C is provides team w better outlook if you can find capable young wingers

Armstrong isn't bottom of the barrel, but he's not even top 15 in my opinion. I'd put him in the bottom half of the NHL at least. Bergevin and Chiarelli are far and away the bottom two. they're in a class all their own.
As far as Nuge on the wing, he was, but he's a better center than winger. Blues need a center, Edmonton needs a RHD, Draisaitl and McDavid make $21 million together, that's unsustainable.

Blues won't need to give up that much for Draisaitl simply because you don't necessarily know if some of his production comes from playing behind McDavid. It's like Malkin who has proved himself in Crosby's absence.
For Panarin, i almost think Kyrou, 1st and Fabbri is a for sure deal from the Blues. Panarin is a proven performer. Kekalainen and Davidson love Berglund. They'd gladly take him, but Blues may need to take on Dubinsky which scares me

Without a meltdown from Allen and Schwartz not getting hurt, we’re in the playoffs. 7 straight years, have a good farm system and quality contracts with a solid core. He’s top 10-12 easily.

Armstrong has made some good moves, but he's made more puzzling ones which outweigh the good. Giving Allen a starter's salary when he never proved to be a starter. Extending Steen, Sobotka, and Beglund for the amounts he did, Ryan Miller trade, hiring of Mike Yeo as coach in waiting was terrible idea. He also wasn't the GM who drafted Schwartz, Parayko, Tarasenko, as well as others. We can debate about whether the GM has much say in the drafting of players as the scouting team. Bill Armstrong has done a remotely good job there. Personally, I think he's middle of road to bottom half. Not top 15. He's just been okay.

And that is why Armstrong and the staff is a bottom half team. A team need, one of the top players left in McLeod, and we draft yet another winger.