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Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 3:19 pm

Thread: Did he overthink it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>If only the salary cap didn’t exist</div></div>

Well I mean, they're paying Krug and Faulk 13 million to do what Petro himself can do. So cap wise they'd be fine.

Forum: NHL TradesSep 26 at 4:33

Thread: (OTT/STL) - Brown and cond. 2022 4th for Sanford

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Not sure why St.Louis would do this? Brown hasn't proved he's even an NHL player at 23 while Sanford is a consistent 20-30 PT winger.</div></div>

There's the cap space issue for one. Two, Sanford is insanely inconsistent in his play. He's like Patrik Berglund, when on, he can be a decent forward. But when he's not, ooof

Forum: Armchair-GMSep 24 at 1:54

Thread: Its Time

I think they could resign him before UFA too, but not a bad strategy. Personally, if we could move on from one of the long contracts in Schenn, Krug, or Faulk I'd prefer that instead.

Forum: NHL SigningsSep 2 at 9:39

Thread: St. Louis Blues signed Colton Parayko (8 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)

I'm iffy on the the term and AAV, but if he can produce more offensively than this will be a steal.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug 27 at 1:22

Thread: Carolina Hurricanes signed Andrei Svechnikov (8 Years / $7,750,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>McDavid's contract was originally in the 13's, and he went back and took less to help the team after the fact. It is literally the definition of taking less.
And none of those contracts were anything other than market value when they signed them. The take less thing is all PR bull**** and you've fallen hook, line, and sinker for it.</div></div>

Market value for Pasta was in the 8s same with Marchand and Bergeron. They took significantly less. If McDavid truly wanted to take less to win now he would have taken 10.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug 27 at 11:19

Thread: Carolina Hurricanes signed Andrei Svechnikov (8 Years / $7,750,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Lmao that isn't a real thing. It's a pr spin.
Besides, the few instances we have where it was confirmed to have happened tend to backfire on the player. Connor McDavid for example took less and look how that's worked out.</div></div>

12.5 cap hit is hardly taking "less" when you're the highest paid player in the league. But yes, it is a thing. Pasta, Bergeron, Marchand, Hall, McAvoy, Carlo, are all taking less than they could have made because the philosophy is winning over a paycheck. Maybe Waddell is doing the same in Carolina.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug 26 at 4:31

Thread: Carolina Hurricanes signed Andrei Svechnikov (8 Years / $7,750,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Why would his agent allow him to sign for this money for 8 years?!? This would be a reasonable number for 5 years. That's a huge failure on his part.</div></div>

Maybe it's the Boston Bruins philosophy, take less money but aim for a win.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug 26 at 5:23

Thread: Columbus Blue Jackets signed Cole Sillinger (3 Years / $1,633,333 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>damn 12 teams. His Jersey collection has to be insane.

Good luck Cole.
Hope you're good at learning names Ole Julian Bjørgvik Holm! LOL</div></div>

No player has ever played for more teams than his dad.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 16 at 10:14

Thread: Edmonton Oilers

Blues would accept if this is the return. Sadly, the Bkues wouldn't get that much of a return for Vova

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 12 at 8:14

Thread: copy me dubie

Blues don't entertain that offer for a second.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 12 at 3:07

Thread: IDK on value just a thought

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>William nylander had as many goals in these past playoffs as tarasenko had the past 2 seasons is almost 5 years younger, cheaper, healthy with actual on ice performance proof of it and looked incredible at the end of last season.
Two late 2nds dont make up that gap, so no, it's not a fair deal</div></div>

They do actually. You may not think so, but it's a fair offer. Again, Toronto won't do it because they dont need to do it.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 12 at 2:56

Thread: IDK on value just a thought

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Uh huh, right so "fair value " is a young 1st line winger on a cheaper, longer deal for a disgruntled more expensive guy who hasnt been healthy in 2 years and is coming off a bunch of shoulder surgerie.
Someone is over valuing players here and it isnt me</div></div>

Tarasenko is a 1st liner sniper who according to his doctor is healthy and was looking really good at the end of the season. Only 2 years left on his deal plus getting two 2nds on top of him. So yeah, it's a fair deal, but it's not part of Toronto plans.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 12 at 12:22

Thread: IDK on value just a thought

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>That isnt even close to fair, that is horrific for the leafs</div></div>

It's a fair deal. Leafs fans, such as yourself, are notorious for overvaluing players. There are other reasons why the trade doesn't happen, but value wise this is good.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 12 at 12:20

Thread: IDK on value just a thought

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nate</b></div><div>To be fair to the guy the value is there, but Dubas is high on his guys, Nylander has a cheaper contract, and is younger.</div></div>

That's why I don't see it happening. Plus Nylander and Tarasenko are two totally different players. Toronto has two snipers in Matthews and Tavares. Why add another sniper to that top 6 instead of having two really good set up guys who can also score?

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 12 at 12:17

Thread: IDK on value just a thought

That's probably a fair deal, but I dont see Toronto making that trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 6 at 4:50

Thread: STL Blues 101-19

Nashville declines, Blues will keep Kyrou, that Rangers trade is good.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 6 at 7:01

Thread: hmmm

Arizona declines. Chychrun is one of the better defenseman in the league, but because he plays for Zona he gets relatively no credit.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 4 at 9:12

Thread: According to Rumored Signings

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewGoalie33</b></div><div>Well reports are saying that Bailey has been mentioned in trade talks, so I they could take Bailey. Probably a third party team does the retention, but I didn’t feel like explaining a whole three-team trade.</div></div>

Fair enough. I just don't see Bailey as a fit for the Blues right now. They have plenty of set up guys as is and need prospects or another strong defenseman.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug 4 at 6:06

Thread: St. Louis Blues signed Zachary Sanford (1 Year / $2,000,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>It just seems like they are trying too hard to get something out of this guy. He's frequented on the 2nd line which seems like wasted potential for the younger guys who can do more. The Blues usage of this guy reminds me of Willie Desjardins sticking Megna and Chaput with the sedins.

idk, i'm usually pretty hard on Sanford, I personally wouldn't have qualified him. I think he's the product of his minutes and the team rather than his own skill.</div></div>

Could not agree more. He's propped up by ROR and Perron and still doesn't average .50 ppg

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 4 at 4:37

Thread: After Sanford Signing

We should have traded Sanford. Not sure why we kept him.

Forum: NHL SigningsAug 4 at 4:36

Thread: St. Louis Blues signed Zachary Sanford (1 Year / $2,000,000 AAV)

Patrik Berglund 2.0 gets signed for $2 mil...overpayment and takes him to UFA. Hope Blues trade him.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 4 at 2:33

Thread: Filling holes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>UBS_ARENA</b></div><div>Keep laughing when he gets moved for less.</div></div>

If Blues are retaining half, they'll definitely getting much better than this.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 4 at 2:32

Thread: According to Rumored Signings

Blues won't retain on Tarasenko and take on Bailey to give them the same cap hit as they do right now. Makes no sense for them. Blues are better off just retaining and getting Wilde and a 2nd.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 4 at 2:31

Thread: Just Do It Already

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_K</b></div><div>I guess it depends on which stories and reports you choose to believe. It's been reported that the Blues doctors messed up his shoulder surgery 2x and the 3rd one (done by the Steadman Clinic) identified unrepaired tendons. So there is the story being put out there that he is unhappy with the team and the way they handled his surgeries and recovery. There were also reports that Vlad was unhappy with ROR getting the captaincy (despite it being an absolute no-brainer) and those feelings are probably a pretty strong driver to find a fresh start.</div></div>

I'll be honest, I didn't think ROR was a no Brainerd, but also didn't think it should have gone to Tarasenko. Based on how he handles young kids in the locker room as well handles squabbles on the ice, I would say Schenn was just as viable as a captain. Very Foligno-esque

Forum: Armchair-GMAug 4 at 2:27

Thread: Another Islanders Roster

Blues decline. Won't take 3 years of Bailey if they have to retain on Tarasenko. Retaining 2.5 on Vova while also taking on Bailey is the same total cap hit they have now. Not interested

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