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Forum: Armchair-GM7 hours ago

Thread: Opening night Roster for 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>It adds a tiny amount of flexibility, but a whole lot goes out the door. We're after more Cups now, buddy. You can't overlook that.</div></div>

Losing Bozak won't make or break the team. I like him, but he's expendable.

Forum: Armchair-GM7 hours ago

Thread: Opening night Roster for 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>Currently we have a bonus penalty of 4M to account against the cap. Bonuses aren’t free and this site doesn’t include the bonus in the cap hit sections. Therefore both need to be added manually</div></div>

Yeah I saw that after someone else pointed it out. I forgot to account for that.

Forum: Armchair-GM8 hours ago

Thread: Boston

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>On straight value, Dunn is worth more than a low first and some riff raff. In context of the Blues window, he's worth evem more than that.

And again, he himself is a young guy!</div></div>

With the current market he's only worth about a low first and a mid tier prospect. We may not like it, but that's what the flat cap does. Blues wouldn't do it right now, but it's tempting for a first. That's why.

Forum: Armchair-GM8 hours ago

Thread: Opening night Roster for 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nikolay_Zherdev</b></div><div>... no we dont</div></div>

Strome and Lemieux won't cost 11 mil combined. They could fit it in.

Forum: Armchair-GM8 hours ago

Thread: Boston

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>It'll be a low, low 1st and (I cannot stress this enough) we are not trading winning now for futures. These return pieces are all futures, and are all kinda meh when compared to Dunn (who I must remind, is still very young himself).

Final analysis: Not a chance in hell.</div></div>

If the Blues are trading for futures it wouldn't be these ones, I agree. But that wasn't the point I was making. I'm saying IF they were to be offered a first at all they might take a deal especially considering the current market. (Toews at 2 second rounders).

Forum: Armchair-GM8 hours ago

Thread: Opening night Roster for 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>Are you retaining half of bozak?</div></div>

Not for a 4th rounder. It's one year so the Rangers have the cap.

Forum: Armchair-GM8 hours ago

Thread: Opening night Roster for 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>That won;t be necessary. Steen is cooked. He'll ride out his last year on LTIR and join the organization.</div></div>

It won't be necessary, but it adds more flexibility.

Forum: Armchair-GM8 hours ago

Thread: Opening night Roster for 2021

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ritzy</b></div><div>Is Steen supposed to be out for the year?</div></div>

That's the rumor.

Forum: Armchair-GM8 hours ago

Thread: If Kane goes home

Kane is really good, but this is a massive overpayment for a 30 year old forward making 10.5 for the next 3 years.
Plus, have to believe Buffalo wouldn't give up Reinhart AND Cozens AND a first on top of that.

Forum: Armchair-GM8 hours ago

Thread: Boston

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Vehemently disagree.</div></div>

I think it's closer than you think. A second first gives Blues some flexibility. They would at least entertain it (and yes I know they dont need to trade Dunn for Cap space).

Forum: Armchair-GM8 hours ago

Thread: Crazy Tampa trade

This trade would never happen.
1. Thomas is extremely good and Blues aren't trading him.
2. Cirelli is really good, but redundant given O'Reilly.
3. Blues don't have the cap to pull this off.
4. Tampa has no interest in trading Sergachev

Forum: Armchair-GM8 hours ago

Thread: Omg this is actually something that maybe we can but can we I dont know do you

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KakkoForMauriceRichardAward</b></div><div>Correct, Dunn starts with Urho and Bertuzzi starts with DeBrusk AND a great prospect, not a bust like Zboril</div></div>

Dunn wouldn't be used as a cap dump. So that deal would likely be for DeBrusk.

Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 2:08 pm

Thread: A player from every team under the cap

You could make a much better team than this one

Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 2:05 pm

Thread: Maybe not too realistic with cap but definitely a competitive team

While the Blues like the first,they have absolutely no interest in yet another bottom 6 forward with only middle 6 potential.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 12:26 pm

Thread: Leafs Forever

Blues won't make that trade with Petro gone. Parayko is now their number one defenseman

Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 12:25 pm

Thread: Future with Laine

Try Poehling, Fleury and a couple firsts OR Caufield, Poehling and something else as part of that deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 3:26 pm

Thread: Improvements all around

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_K</b></div><div>This team would be lethal if they could get the saves. I hope Blues can get more than that if they trade Dunn. But that Toews trade scared the hell out of me...</div></div>

I dont see the Blues making this trade,I would hope Armstrong is smarter than that, but then again he makes some terrible moves (see Faulk extension).

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 3:23 pm

Thread: Opening Night without Patrick

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzad96</b></div><div>Well apparently not. Isn't the story that the Oilers scouts voted 12-4 to draft Murray and Kates veto'd it and forced them to take Yak?</div></div>

I'm talking about Central Scouting. In terms of Edmonton, i believe it had more to do with the fact Edmonton needed a defenseman more than Yakupov.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 2:12 pm

Thread: Opening Night without Patrick

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzad96</b></div><div>Terrible draft pick. All 3 players taken after him miles ahead of him.</div></div>

Like he said, hindsight is 20/20. By that metric, Hischier was also a terrible pick because Heiskanen, Makar, and Patterson are miles beyond him. Remember at the time Yakupov was considered a number 1 pick by all scouts. We all know how that turned out

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 2:05 pm

Thread: Dunn and done

If that's what NYR are willing to offer the Blues, I think they take it just based on the need for young RHD for their system and Lundkvist's potential.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 2:03 pm

Thread: Dunn and done

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JimmyBeee</b></div><div>With what cap space can TB afford $4 million? Florida's tax status has no impact on the salary cap.</div></div>

I think he means Cirelli wouldn't take 4 mil in New York because of the taxes. But that doesn't make sense to me because it would be a similar contract to Courtourier's second contract.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 1:58 pm

Thread: Right at the Cap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeastModeUnknown</b></div><div>Dunn pinches boards better than most, he gets back, he knows how to play the offense smart, he can hold the boards in his own end decent he can drive the puck well knows when to lay a hit, he makes some pretty good defensive plays too. It’s not all analytical analysis from me. It’s also eye and I’m saying that a team that will use him as a Top Pairing defenseman because he just plays better than Dahlin in certain areas that fit a Top pairing. You understand the fact we aren’t desperate for cap space when we put Steen and Tarasenko on LTIR.</div></div>

I never brought the cap space into the discussion for a reason.
And yes, Dunn does some incredibly good things when he's out there and I think he will still be a very good defenseman. Top pairing? Possibly, but a top 20 defenseman in the NHL? No, he won't.
I like his game, but he makes a lot of mistakes out there. He's certainly better than Faulk, i agree with that, but he still makes quite a few mistakes and doesn't ever take over a game. Again, i love Dunn and want him to be a Blues player for a long time, but he doesn't deserve to get back a top prospect and a first. That's just not reasonable

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 12:20 pm

Thread: Right at the Cap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeastModeUnknown</b></div><div><img class="for_img" src="https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/501148288003735572/767530855202684949/ZtlUrl5cXFRWVnJyckZHh6vrahkfCSRrkgiCKAJu40UQBEEQBEEQpBuyevXqrKwsQkh5eflTTz3lanEQBEEQpJNAYxCIAiCIAiCI.png?width=1040&height=856" alt="ZtlUrl5cXFRWVnJyckZHh6vrahkfCSRrkgiCKAJu40UQBEEQBEEQpBuyevXqrKwsQkh5eflTTz3lanEQBEEQpJNAYxCIAiCIAiCI.png?width=1040&height=856">

If we don't get that it would be one of the biggest mistakes Blues will ever make.</div></div>

If you're holding out for top prospect and a 1st rounder, you're never going to deal him. He's a really good player and will increase, but dude, sometimes the eye test is more important than the analytics, especially when looking at guys who play in strong systems.
The Blues could get a top 6 forward for him, but not a top prospect and 1st unless the team trading has an abundance of 1sts. You might get a mid tier prospect and a late 1st. So someone like Bode Wilde and a 1st from the Isles (but they likely won't deal for a LHD).

Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 7:02 pm

Thread: Right at the Cap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeastModeUnknown</b></div><div>Blues won't be interested in that. Vince Dunn is worth around a 1st and a Top Prospect. CM isn't valued very high anymore actually very much a bust material player. Pilut doesn't move the needle either.</div></div>

Vince Dunn isn't worth both a 1st and a top prospect. He's worth a top 6 potential guy though

Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 7:43 pm

Thread: David Perron to Isles

Blues would rather trade Bozak before Perron given Bozak will be easier to move.

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