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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 21, 2022 at 11:11 a.m.

Thread: Step One

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DoBap</b></div><div>Hate to break it to you, but the Blues are struggling, and he has already requested a trade, on more than one occasion.

This deal would be a deadline deal, and if the Blues were smart they would sell him, because it's clear he isn't coming back.</div></div>

Blues aren't struggling right now. They're an insanely streaky team as we are seeing.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 16, 2022 at 11:01 p.m.

Thread: Who wins this trade

Neither team wins or loses. Thomas has more upside offensively while Suzuki is better defensively.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 16, 2022 at 10:57 p.m.

Thread: Who wins this trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>STLBlues17</b></div><div>Yeah Thomas is a much much better player</div></div>

Offensively I agree. I do think Suzuki has the edge defensively though Thomas is no slouch.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 15, 2022 at 12:49 p.m.

Thread: Bedard In Blue

The Blues do need some more dynamic players in their system. However I don't see the Blues doing that all.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 15, 2022 at 11:26 a.m.

Thread: Go for it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>harryharryharry</b></div><div>To win a cup</div></div>

So they plan to get weaker to try and win and cup? That makes zero sense.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 15, 2022 at 10:41 a.m.

Thread: Go for it

Both moves are terrible for Boston. Why would they do this?

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 15, 2022 at 9:39 a.m.

Thread: 2RW 3RD 3RW

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logan_Ollivier</b></div><div>Your response to anything eh?</div></div>

In his defense, this one is a really terrible trade for the Blues.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 14, 2022 at 5:54 a.m.

Thread: So this is what it feels like to have a top 10 Center

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>What would Faulk cost? Would the Chiarot trade from last year be a good comparable?</div></div>

No because Faulk has term that is reasonable since it ends when he's 35. His game hopefully means he has longevity

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 13, 2022 at 9:26 a.m.

Thread: Top6

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>No way St. Louis is selling without a 1st coming back</div></div>

I would also add it is still too early for the Blues to sell.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 13, 2022 at 9:25 a.m.

Thread: So this is what it feels like to have a top 10 Center

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ht42</b></div><div>I will add Mysak and a 3rd round pick for Parako.

Montreal need a defenseman who can play both sides and Parako can bounce-back in MTL. Also, his style is a little bit like Weber, but more offensively.</div></div>

Parayko isn't more offensive than Weber nor is he near as gritty. For either Faulk or Parayko, this offer doesn't get it done.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 11, 2022 at 8:12 p.m.

Thread: Were going to see these for the next 4 months so why not

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tennisman142</b></div><div>I don't see how Niemela rights diminish his return. We only have the rights of our recent prospect Jimmy Snugeruud. We haven't signed him. Do you think he is only worth a 2nd? Fox was a special case in that he wanted to specifically go to NY. Scott perunovich signed with us a year or 2 after we drafted him. It's a pretty normal thing to do.</div></div>

Knies rights. But yes his rights aren't worth as much as the player himself. He's a great power forward prospect and one the Blues definitely could use, but there's no guarantee he'll sign. And honestly, I think Snugeruude's rights would only be worth a 2nd or 3rd like Vesey.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2022 at 9:57 p.m.

Thread: Were going to see these for the next 4 months so why not

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tennisman142</b></div><div>I think it's too much. I rate Knies higher than Neighbors and Niemela a little lower than Bolduc. It's the maple leafs 2 best prospects and a 1st for a rental. Not many rentals go for that price. I expect a similar price to Claude Giroux</div></div>

Well Giroux had a NMC and completely controlled his own destiny. ROR has no trade protection. Nevertheless, I dont think Niemela is a great pick and Knies the Blues would only get his rights which isn't worth much (think Vesey and Fox went for 2nds or less) since there's no guarantee of signing with them.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2022 at 8:58 p.m.

Thread: Were going to see these for the next 4 months so why not

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tennisman142</b></div><div>As a blues fan I think your offering too much for ROR. But I will gladly take it.</div></div>

I mean theoretically the rights to Knies and a 1st for ROR and Niemela for the 50% retained seems pretty fair to me. Don't think it's an underpayment or overpay.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2022 at 8:56 p.m.

Thread: Were going to see these for the next 4 months so why not

Seems like a fair deal for ROR at half retained.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2022 at 8:54 p.m.

Thread: Trade deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Every time I watch the blues Scandella looks like he belongs in the ECHL</div></div>

Scandella is gone for the year so no worries there. The rest is a massive underpayment for Tarasenko half retained

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2022 at 8:36 a.m.

Thread: Sabres TDL

Blues don't do that trade. A: Dumba is completely overrated. B: if the Blues sell it will be for 1st round picks and/or young prospects

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2022 at 8:34 a.m.

Thread: Time to win the cup

If the Blues trade ROR, they're getting picks back.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2022 at 8:32 a.m.

Thread: Player from some struggling teams

Value wise that's great for Barbashev. Don't think the needs are met though.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 9, 2022 at 2:51 p.m.

Thread: Tomorrow v San Jose

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>xercuses</b></div><div>It rather run
Tarasenko on an ROR line
Maybe they can fire together</div></div>

It doesn't hurt to try anything at this point.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 9, 2022 at 2:08 p.m.

Thread: Way She Goes

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>xercuses</b></div><div>Why would none take saad, he’s a defensive workhorses that puts up points

People would send in actual offers for him I’m sure</div></div>

Term isn't bad, but Kapanen and a couple picks is a decent return for him given age.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 9, 2022 at 10:43 a.m.

Thread: the size and goodlookingness if this D would be fun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojme</b></div><div>You're already getting kulich and a replacement Rd, the two seconds are more than overpayment on top of that already.</div></div>

While Kulich is a nice piece, Joki has little value at this point.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 9, 2022 at 10:41 a.m.

Thread: the size and goodlookingness if this D would be fun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Marino isn’t a lesser player, Parayko was elite in his prime but he’s been a mediocre 2nd pair D the past 3 seasons. I know injuries have played a role but he’s turning 30 soon and is on an 8 year deal.

Marino is 25 YO being paid 4.5 mill. It’s different.</div></div>

He is a lesser player and doesn't get tougher competition. Problem is Parayko needs a partner who is reliable and he hasn't had that so he tries to overcompensate

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 9, 2022 at 10:29 a.m.

Thread: the size and goodlookingness if this D would be fun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Parayko would be lucky to get a 2nd rd pick alone in a trade right now</div></div>

Marino got the equivalent of a mid to late first and he's a lesser player. He'd get a first especially with term left.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 9, 2022 at 10:23 a.m.

Thread: the size and goodlookingness if this D would be fun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>STLBlues17</b></div><div>Seems unrealistic</div></div>

1st would be top ten protected.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 9, 2022 at 10:23 a.m.

Thread: STL fans are panic selling

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dickie_boon</b></div><div>nylander + 1st + top prospect at least lol</div></div>

As a Blues fan, Parayko doesn't go for that much. Hell the Blues didn't even get that much for Faulk.

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