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Created by: Shibbal18
Team: 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 28, 2018
Published: Jun. 28, 2018
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Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$700,000
2$700,000
3$800,000
2$650,000
5$4,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Dahlin, Rasmus
3$925,000
Hickey, Brandon
2$767,500
1$650,000
1$650,000
2$3,500,000
2$700,000
2$1,850,000
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2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$75,194,524$0$1,457,500$4,305,476
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
UFA - 8
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
$5,725,000$5,725,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 4
$650,000$650,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$5,600,000$5,600,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
$1,475,000$1,475,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Dahlin, Rasmus
$925,000$925,000
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
$697,500$697,500 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD
UFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 3
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
UFA - 2
$812,500$812,500
RD
UFA - 2

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Jun. 28, 2018 at 3:09 p.m.
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ratzy9
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lol they arent gonna trade ROR for Parayko, they want a 1st 2nd and prospect- also why the **** would they trade a solid C for a guy and play him 3rd line
Jun. 28, 2018 at 3:13 p.m.
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GMBots would be absolutely foolish to send his 2019 first round pick to any team..... that pick could end up being top 5..... Skinner has one year left on his deal..... if you need to send a 1st Round pick it has to be SJS or STL if that ROR deal you have put forth goes through...... GMBots can not take the risk of sending his 1st Round in 2019......

Think of it this way...... GMBots makes that deal..... Sabres suffer through a horrendous season (Eichel gets injured, no true #2C, goalie situation blows up) they get a top 5 pick and Skinner decides you know what I need to get away from this dumpster fire NOW......

GMBots at the 2019 draft with no top 5 pick and no Skinner...... he will be looking for work!!!!!
Jun. 28, 2018 at 3:38 p.m.
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GMBots would be absolutely foolish to send his 2019 first round pick to any team..... that pick could end up being top 5..... Skinner has one year left on his deal..... if you need to send a 1st Round pick it has to be SJS or STL if that ROR deal you have put forth goes through...... GMBots can not take the risk of sending his 1st Round in 2019......

Think of it this way...... GMBots makes that deal..... Sabres suffer through a horrendous season (Eichel gets injured, no true #2C, goalie situation blows up) they get a top 5 pick and Skinner decides you know what I need to get away from this dumpster fire NOW......

GMBots at the 2019 draft with no top 5 pick and no Skinner...... he will be looking for work!!!!!


How would this roster be in the top 5 of the draft, this is a playoff team. If Eichel gets hurt again, the Sabres have bigger issues to worry about but still enough depth to get them through how ever many games Eichel is out. If youre so worried, put a conditon on the pick and make the trade conditional on Skinner signing an extension.
Jun. 28, 2018 at 3:41 p.m.
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lol they arent gonna trade ROR for Parayko, they want a 1st 2nd and prospect- also why the **** would they trade a solid C for a guy and play him 3rd line


Play Dahlin on the 3rd line till he gets his feet wet, and/or trade Risto to Edmonton. Or Dahlin starts on the left side. 3rd pair doesnt mean 3rd pair minutes. they all could end up with 20 minutes a night. Having an evenly balanced well rested D will break other teams down.
Jun. 28, 2018 at 3:41 p.m.
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How would this roster be in the top 5 of the draft, this is a playoff team. If Eichel gets hurt again, the Sabres have bigger issues to worry about but still enough depth to get them through how ever many games Eichel is out. If youre so worried, put a conditon on the pick and make the trade conditional on Skinner signing an extension.


As I have always said reasonable people will differ and in this case you and I differ...... If I was GMBots there is no way I move the 2019 First Rounder...... I am probably dead wrong as I am most often incorrect on all things......
Jun. 28, 2018 at 3:46 p.m.
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As I have always said reasonable people will differ and in this case you and I differ...... If I w


Youre kinda just doing mental gymnastics to think of a worst case scenario, which is fine, they should plan for it. But if Eichel goes down you could just slot Reinhart in their temporarily, move Pommer and Okposo to the top 6, and Bailey moves into the roster, who we know can provide good bottom 6 play. Larsson is also another decent center collecting dust on this roster, Botts is high on Malone, and he just traded for O'Regan. Their is more depth their than you are giving them credit for.
Jun. 28, 2018 at 6:33 p.m.
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Youre kinda just doing mental gymnastics to think of a worst case scenario, which is fine, they should plan for it. But if Eichel goes down you could just slot Reinhart in their temporarily, move Pommer and Okposo to the top 6, and Bailey moves into the roster, who we know can provide good bottom 6 play. Larsson is also another decent center collecting dust on this roster, Botts is high on Malone, and he just traded for O'Regan. Their is more depth their than you are giving them credit for.


Well what I have seen from this team and organization is nothing that resembles a playoff team...... Your team has 10 new faces and your hope is that their styles, personalities and egos mesh..... I think that is a very tall task for a 2nd year Head Coach and 2nd year GM...... this team has had no clue how to play defense and until the forwards demonstrate that they understand and can play in the neutral and defensive zone and your DMen have shown they do not understand how to adeptly pass the puck onto a team mate's stick (instead of the forwards skates) I will continue to think this team has a better shot at being bottom 5 then a playoff team......

I have to disagree with you on Larsson he was a -30 last year..... I know I know I know plus/minus means nothing well I disagree if you are a -30 that means something bad..... too many stupid penalties.... 4 goals & 13 assists in 80 games in 17/18 proceeded by 5 goals 6 assists in 36 games in 16/17 & 10 goals 7 assists in .74 games in 15/16 is a sample size that states he is not NHL caliber...... btw 49, 20 & 27 Penalty minutes in those years..... a player that puts his team in odd man situations and does not score is not a player you can rely on getting you to the promise land.

GMBots is high on the players you have mentioned but he was also high on Beaulieu (swing and a miss)..... Antipin (a big miss just on how he was or was not used..... Until O'Regan, Malone, Baptiste, Bailey, Smith, Pu, et al actually produce in the NHL they all have promise well promise does not get you to the playoffs.

You want to give the organization the benefit of the doubt and see this as the glass is half full..... I see that there is NO GLASS and until they prove it to me on the ice there will continue to be NO GLASS...... Housley has to prove he can actually coach and get a room to believe in what he is selling.....

I may be a negative Nancy but I have earned the right to be so as I put down my hard earned dollars for my season tickets and faithfully watch every away game and attend the development camp as I have the last 2 days...... I am a realist not a dreamer.....

I appreciate the back and forth on this topic I can always count on you to provide a solid argument!!!!
 
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