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Blockbuster with Edmonton

Created by: kscoop
Team: 2018-19 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 26, 2018
Published: Jul. 26, 2018
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I would hate to lose Pastrnak but getting Draisaitl back would be unreal. Oilers get a super star winger and another very good winger. Also get cehlarik who is NHL ready imo.
Bruins get Draisaitl which would be huge as Bergeron and Krejci are in their 30's. Also get Puljujarvi who hasn't seemed to find it in Edmonton.
Bruins may have to add a draft pick as Draisaitl carries the most value in this trade.
Future down the middle.
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$79,500,000$74,176,501$774,000$6,025,000$5,323,499
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
$6,875,000$6,875,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
$900,000$900,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$1,275,000$1,275,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
$725,000$725,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,000,000$5,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RD
UFA - 1
$7,000,000$7,000,000
G
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UFA - 3
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
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UFA - 2
$789,167$789,167
RD
UFA - 1
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 5
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
$1,400,000$1,400,000
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UFA - 2

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Jul. 26, 2018 at 12:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Bostons two biggest organizational needs are high end centers and high end LD


Yes but is it really worth it to trade one hole for another filling that top right wing.
Jul. 26, 2018 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Well, let's be real here. Draisaitl may have occasionally been on a line with McDavid, but Pastrnak was basically always on the ice with 2/3 of Canada's top line. If we're going to make an argument for who had the easier time when it comes to who they were playing with, I'm not sure you're helping yourself out.


I checked the WOWY's, and without Marchand and Bergeron Pastrnak is underwater in a big way.

Interesting discussion, as there's not much to separate these two. I guess it comes down to organizational need and player projection.
Jul. 26, 2018 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: DemitraGoat
Yes but is it really worth it to trade one hole for another filling that top right wing.


Tough to tell for sure, obviously it depends on how the two players develop in the future.

A hole at top line center is way harder to fill than a whole at RW. Maybe heinen could play there? senyshyn in the future blah blah blah. It would be really tough to say no to this deal. Maybe Puljujujujujarvi plays there. That line crushed it with Brett Connolly on their RW, so, ya, I think I would make this trade. Ship Krug for a solid RW, and move on with Krejci as your third line center.
Jul. 26, 2018 at 12:12 p.m.
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I checked the WOWY's, and without Marchand and Bergeron Pastrnak is underwater in a big way.

Interesting discussion, as there's not much to separate these two. I guess it comes down to organizational need and player projection.


wtf are the WOWYs?
Jul. 26, 2018 at 12:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
wtf are the WOWYs?


With Or Without You. So you can see how much one player impacts another. For instance:

Draisaitl with McDavid (498:33): 54.38 CF%
Draisaitl without McDavid (628:15): 50.42 CF%
McDavid without Draisaitl (780:18): 50.06 CF%

Pastrnak with Bergeron (721:51): 58.55 CF%
Pastrnak without Bergeron (173:10): 44.67 CF%
Bergeron without Pastrnak (142:28): 52.88 CF%
Jul. 26, 2018 at 12:22 p.m.
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With Or Without You. So you can see how much one player impacts another. For instance:

Draisaitl with McDavid (498:33): 54.38 CF%
Draisaitl without McDavid (628:15): 50.42 CF%
McDavid without Draisaitl (780:18): 50.06 CF%

Pastrnak with Bergeron (721:51): 58.55 CF%
Pastrnak without Bergeron (173:10): 44.67 CF%
Bergeron without Pastrnak (142:28): 52.88 CF%


oh....corsi. ya i don't care about corsi
Jul. 26, 2018 at 12:32 p.m.
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oh....corsi. ya i don't care about corsi


FF% / SF% / GF% / SCF% / SCGF% all look basically the same with Pastrnak and Bergeron. I just picked CF% as an example.

All these numbers have value, just dismissing something offhand limits the conversation.
Jul. 26, 2018 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Propeller09
I don't really think it's a stretch for a couple reasons with Bergeron.
1) He has shown zero signs of fallilng off. He has actually gotten better in the last three.
2) Yes, he puts his body through alot, but you sort of contradict yourself here, you mention pastrnak playing with 2/3rds team canada, but then say it will only last another year or two. He just turned 33 which is getting old, but Ovechkin turns 33 in sept and I don't see him turning into a 20 goal scorer anytime in the next three years. He also plays a hard game. There are a ton of guys who have been very productive into their mid to late 30's. Bergeron just seems like that type of player to me. Like Getzlaf, Datsyuk, etc... I say the same thing about Sid and Malkin, Kopitar. He's not Backes is my point... I don't think he'll be in the hart conversation when he is 37 either, but Draisaitl won't be in it in 4 years either.
3) McDavid has won the art ross two years in a row. McDavid is the 1st line of team canada now.
4) I agree on Krejci - if he is your number one, probably not a great team. He is a very good #2 center. Top 7 #2 and a #1 on: NYR, NSH, Det, CBJ, MTL, VAN(close), AZ, CAR, OTT & NJ


was this meant to be quoting me? I feel like it may have been.
Anyway, no one shows signs of falling off until they show signs of falling off. For a lot of guys, the decline is not a slow one. For every player that plays at a high level deep into his 30s there are probably 30 that see a significant decline.
 
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