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Is a long-term Pacioretty signing possible?

Created by: Chigurrhh
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 4, 2018
Published: Aug. 4, 2018
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This assumes a cap increase of $3 million.

If the cap is tight, a Jack Johnson buyout is possible and leaves only a $270,833 cap hit.

It looks like the team could potentially afford to sign him long term. Is this a good idea? Probably not. Ideally, they would want a younger player and more depth in the bottom six.
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Aug. 4, 2018 at 9:15 p.m.
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Meeces
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Hes gonna want and recieve more than 7 especially if the cap goes up.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 9:18 p.m.
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tmljk22
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Even if he were to make around 7, you still don't have enough cap room for bonus'. Playing Sprong on Crosby's line will surely cause full bonus'
Aug. 4, 2018 at 9:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Meeces
Hes gonna want and recieve more than 7 especially if the cap goes up.


What he wants is less important that what the market value is.

7 is what Evander Kane, a guy two years younger got. 29-year-old JVR also got that much for 5 years. It would also make Pacioretty tied with them for the fourth highest paid left winger.

And the cap hit tends to go down when you pay for more years into their 30's. Oshie got $5.75 for 8 years at about the same age while coming off a career season.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 9:28 p.m.
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Edited Aug. 4, 2018 at 9:33 p.m.
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Aug. 4, 2018 at 9:32 p.m.
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Quoting: tmljk22
Even if he were to make around 7, you still don't have enough cap room for bonus'. Playing Sprong on Crosby's line will surely cause full bonus'


Sprong is not on an ELC and is not eligible for bonuses. Bellerive is on an ELC but is not edible for bonus money.

At that point, it's close enough that the team can make it work. Like I said, a Jack Johnson buyout only takes his cap hit from $3.25 million to $270k.
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Aug. 4, 2018 at 10:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Chigurrhh
Sprong is not on an ELC and is not eligible for bonuses. Bellerive is on an ELC but is not edible for bonus money.

At that point, it's close enough that the team can make it work. Like I said, a Jack Johnson buyout only takes his cap hit from $3.25 million to $270k.


Oh okay. My fault
Aug. 4, 2018 at 10:27 p.m.
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Lol he hasnt played a game yet and JJ’s already being bought out by everyone. Patience ppl
Aug. 4, 2018 at 10:35 p.m.
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You’ve made it work on paper but in reality it doesn’t work. Teams can get by with a 22 man roster if they can’t afdord a full 23, but not a 21. On your roster if a forward goes down with the flu, the Pens will be playing short a forward as it is not an IR situation and you do not have space to recall a player
Aug. 4, 2018 at 10:50 p.m.
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I do not like that center depth sam-i-am, not in a house, not with a mouse
Aug. 4, 2018 at 10:57 p.m.
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possible? yes. feasible? no
He would have to take significantly less than you have him down here for. The pens would need to have room for a spare forward which you do not have. They would likely also need to sign a more legitimate center(which is more cost added to what you have. It also would not surprise me if guentzel got more than you have here. So would need at least another 3million cap space. don't think pacioretty would take a discount down to 4million but maybe 5.5 and find some cap savings somewhere else.
Aug. 4, 2018 at 11:33 p.m.
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Have you bothered looking at what Johnson's buyout is after the first year? It's over a million every season from 2020-2027, and in 2022-23 its over two million. Buying out Johnson's contract is idiotic, not least because he'll still have value and even if he isn't what Rutherford is looking for he'll be easy to trade to more than a few bad GM's.
 
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