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Forum: Armchair-GM6 hours ago
Thread: The Whats Next Reset
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swinny</b></div><div>I see the same thing. But, Zacha being only 24, one could argue he would be part of the team if the build is done right.

Why I moved Gaudreau and Monahan - seeing that change is needed. If picks are preferred, whatever. Think we see what we see here..... it isn't working.</div></div>

I think one of Gaudreau and Monahan will be moved in the summer, maybe both.

I don't think the returns for either would be very impressive, I think Gaudreau would have more interest than Monahan though.

For Gaudreau, I think it would be something like the Hall from NJ to ARI deal. 1st and 3rd as well as a pair of decent prospects. Lots of Flames fans would be disappointed, but I think that is about what we can expect.
With Monahan I'd kind of look at the Duchene from OTT to CBJ deal. 1st and a pair of decent prospects.

It doesn't make the Flames necessarily any better, but at LW they can go Tkachuk and Mangiapane in their top 6 and at C they can go Lindholm and Backlund down the middle, while stocking up on some futures. I think it would be a mistake for the Flames to look for "hockey deals", because they aren't getting an equal talent to Gaudreau and you're just holding off the inevitable, which is stockpiling picks because I do think the Flames are very close to being a team that needs a rebuild.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr 11 at 4:29
Thread: Next Season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Cannon</b></div><div>Don’t you rebuild around chucky? Create a team with the same bite and identity he has and incorporate a good supporting cast around him that’s younger?</div></div>

The issue would be he's two years away from UFA, why would he want to sign long-term if the team is going to tank?<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tkachinla</b></div><div>You never trade Tkachuk. He’s 23 years old.

And CGY ownership will never stand for a full rebuild. What will happen is Treliving will trade Gaudreau and Monahan and target some actual roster pieces and picks and try to do the retool. It’s the last shot he has at keeping his job. He’s on his 5th coach after all. Ownership won’t keep him around to do a rebuild on the roster he stubbornly held on too long with; it’s a retool or a retire for Treliving and he knows it.</div></div>

You're right, they won't actually rebuild and it will be more of the same. Hovering around 6th-10th in the Western Conference on an annual basis. All ownership is fine with just simply making the playoffs.

I also think Flames fans need to be prepared for underwhelming returns for Gaudreau and Monahan. In particular, Monahan.