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Created by: CanEHdian04
Initial Creation Date: Sep 18, 2018
Published: Sep 18, 2018 at 3:44
Team: 2018-19 Ottawa Senators
Trades
OTT
  1. Pesce, Brett
CAR
  1. White, Colin
  2. Balcers, Rūdolfs
Additional Details:
I'm not sure about the value on this one but the point is Ottawa has a decent amount of talented wingers and centermen prospects but almost nothing in terms of defense. I would definitely consider moving one or even two of those forwards prospects to pick up a young d-man with potential
OTT
  1. Kassian, Zack
EDM
  1. Ceci, Cody
Buyouts
  • Alexandre Burrows: $2,500,000
  • Patrick Sieloff: $141,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Dion Phaneuf: $1,750,000 (25%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2018
2019
OTT
SJS
PIT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
CGY
2020
OTT
SJS
OTT
OTT
CBJ
OTT
OTT
SJS
OTT
2021
OTT
OTT
SJS
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$64,270,832$0$3,640,000$15,229,168
Left WingCenterRight Wing
OTT
Formenton, Alex
$753,333
LW
RFA - 4
OTT
Duchene, Matt
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
OTT
Dzingel, Ryan
$1,800,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
OTT
Tkachuk, Brady
$925,000
LW, C
RFA - 3
OTT
Tierney, Chris
$2,937,500
C
UFA - 2
OTT
Stone, Mark
$7,350,000
RW
UFA - 1
OTT
Boedker, Mikkel
$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
OTT
Brown, Logan
$863,333
C
RFA - 3
OTT
Ryan, Bobby
$7,250,000
RW, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
OTT
Pääjärvi, Magnus
$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
OTT
Smith, Zack
$3,250,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 3
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 2
OTT
Batherson, Drake
$736,666
C, RW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
OTT
Chabot, Thomas
$863,333
LD
UFA - 2
CAR
Pesce, Brett
$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 6
OTT
Anderson, Craig
$4,750,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
OTT
Wolanin, Christian
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
OTT
DeMelo, Dylan
$900,000
RD
UFA - 2
OTT
Condon, Mike
$2,400,000
G
UFA - 2
OTT
Wikstrand, Mikael
$900,000
LD
RFA
OTT
Wideman, Chris
$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
OTT
Borowiecki, Mark
$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
OTT
Pyatt, Tom
$1,100,000
C
UFA - 1
OTT
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
$3,100,000
C
UFA - 2
OTT
MacArthur, Clarke
$4,650,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
OTT
Gáborík, Marián
$4,875,000
RW
UFA - 3

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Sep 18, 2018 at 3:52
#1
Bcarlo25
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value is very far off. If Colin White puts up a 20-25 goal season this year, then maybe, but I still don't think it's enough. Pesce is legit, and on a very nice deal.
Sep 18, 2018 at 3:54
#2
Joe
Joined: Sep 2017
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This team looks so sad. As a pirates fan, you think I would be used to seeing teams like this, but I actually feel bad for ottawa.
Sep 18, 2018 at 4:03
#3
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CanEHian04
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
value is very far off. If Colin White puts up a 20-25 goal season this year, then maybe, but I still don't think it's enough. Pesce is legit, and on a very nice deal.


I agree, but the Canes still have Slavin, Hamilton, Faulk, and Fleury. They also have Bean coming up in the next few years. At center however they are lacking, Rask just got injured and will be out for months, so their first line center is Jordan Stall. White won't put up 20 goals this year, but he has that potential in the next few years to become that player. Along with Necas, this would bolster their middle, and Balcers is coming off a 23 goal 48 point rookie season in the AHL displaying plenty of scoring potential. Do you feel like a different center prospect like Batherson or Brown would be better? Personally the way I see it they are slightly less NHL ready than White.
Sep 18, 2018 at 4:24
#4
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: CanEHdian04
I agree, but the Canes still have Slavin, Hamilton, Faulk, and Fleury. They also have Bean coming up in the next few years. At center however they are lacking, Rask just got injured and will be out for months, so their first line center is Jordan Stall. White won't put up 20 goals this year, but he has that potential in the next few years to become that player. Along with Necas, this would bolster their middle, and Balcers is coming off a 23 goal 48 point rookie season in the AHL displaying plenty of scoring potential. Do you feel like a different center prospect like Batherson or Brown would be better? Personally the way I see it they are slightly less NHL ready than White.


I don't think an abundance of good d men is reason to make a bad trade, do you?
Sep 18, 2018 at 6:12
#5
First NY Then LA
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The Carolina guys are going to roast you if they see this post. They think that Pesce = Duchene. Personally, I think you'd need to add a first-round pick to get him with those two prospects (and maybe a RW).
Sep 19, 2018 at 11:50
#6
Thread Starter
CanEHian04
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
I don't think an abundance of good d men is reason to make a bad trade, do you?


I think with an abundance of d-men you can afford to trade one of them to improve your team and satisfy another need. I highlighed that they are in need of centermen, especially in the Metro where their divisional rivals feature the likes of Crosby, Malkin, Barzal, Backstrom, Hisher, and Kuzneztov. Jordan Stall is not exactly a favourable matchup. I had asked you if you could think of a way of improving upon the value using different prospects, and you completely ignored that. Someone else had mentioned Duchene, and I would actually consider that especially if he won't re-sign. It's simple Ottawa needs D-men, Canes need Centerman, Canes can afford to trade D-men, Ottawa can afford to trade Centermen. Thanks for your time.
Sep 19, 2018 at 11:52
#7
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CanEHian04
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
The Carolina guys are going to roast you if they see this post. They think that Pesce = Duchene. Personally, I think you'd need to add a first-round pick to get him with those two prospects (and maybe a RW).


I don't know if a first rounder would really work for the sens, but honestly I think they would heavily consider Duchene especially if he won't re-sign. If they were to trade Duchene though I'd prefer Slavin over Pesce.
Sep 19, 2018 at 12:09
#8
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: CanEHdian04
I think with an abundance of d-men you can afford to trade one of them to improve your team and satisfy another need. I highlighed that they are in need of centermen, especially in the Metro where their divisional rivals feature the likes of Crosby, Malkin, Barzal, Backstrom, Hisher, and Kuzneztov. Jordan Stall is not exactly a favourable matchup. I had asked you if you could think of a way of improving upon the value using different prospects, and you completely ignored that. Someone else had mentioned Duchene, and I would actually consider that especially if he won't re-sign. It's simple Ottawa needs D-men, Canes need Centerman, Canes can afford to trade D-men, Ottawa can afford to trade Centermen. Thanks for your time.


ya, but there are 29 teams in the league other than Ottawa and Carolina. One will give up a better center with better term for Pesce. Ryan Nugent Hopkins would make sense.
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Sep 19, 2018 at 4:58
#9
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
ya, but there are 29 teams in the league other than Ottawa and Carolina. One will give up a better center with better term for Pesce. Ryan Nugent Hopkins would make sense.


Yeah, to you and me and every other rational person, but the last couple of times Nugent-Hopkins for Pesce was proposed, the Carolina guys howled that Pesce is worth more than RNH, that RNH is a #3 center and what Carolina needs is a #1, etc., etc., etc.
Sep 19, 2018 at 6:08
#10
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Yeah, to you and me and every other rational person, but the last couple of times Nugent-Hopkins for Pesce was proposed, the Carolina guys howled that Pesce is worth more than RNH, that RNH is a #3 center and what Carolina needs is a #1, etc., etc., etc.


And I understand that, but they're just wrong and haven't watched him play lately. Two things that won't happen: 1. Pesce being enough to get someone a legit, number one center. 2. Duchene being enough to get Pesce
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