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Murray out

Created by: exo2769
Team: 2018-19 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 9, 2018
Published: Oct. 9, 2018
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Yes, I did this trade earlier today from CHI's perspective. I HONESTLY didn't know Murray OFFICIALLY had a concussion though. I knew there was potential, but anyway. What are your thoughts?

It's NOT a Maatta trade because he shouldn't be traded right now
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Forsberg, Anton
  2. Highmore, Matthew
  3. Kunitz, Chris
  4. 2019 4th round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
4th rounder is conitional...if PIT doesn't make it to the eastern conference finals...the get the 4th. If they do...no 4th.
CHI
  1. Hagelin, Carl
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (PIT)
2.
OTT
  1. Ruhwedel, Chad
  2. Sprong, Daniel
  3. 2019 1st round pick (PIT)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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22$79,500,000$76,604,892$0$982,500$2,895,108
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$734,167$734,167 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$6,800,000$6,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$650,000$650,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$650,000$650,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,137,500$2,137,500
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
UFA - 1
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$3,333,225$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
G
UFA - 2

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Oct. 9, 2018 at 12:52 p.m.
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Cartler
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The problem I see is that Cam Ward suck and Crawford might not be up to play that much to start this year. Forsberg has been alright and should be prefered a head of Ward in the lineup.
Oct. 9, 2018 at 12:56 p.m.
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It's a shame that the Pens came late to the Leafs goalie garage sale. Everything was 50% off in honour of our just past Canadian Thanksgiving :P
Oct. 9, 2018 at 1:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Cartler
The problem I see is that Cam Ward suck and Crawford might not be up to play that much to start this year. Forsberg has been alright and should be prefered a head of Ward in the lineup.


Very valid. Only Stan knows whether Corey can truly come back or not...however...it's kinda the warning sign for PIT fans. Crow has been out for 10+ months and for Murray...2nd concussion in 9 months...3rd for his short career. It's honestly not about hockey anymore. He just came off months of rest and played in 2 games. I guess not enough time to get better. I think there should be real consideration about him being pulled for the rest of the year.
Oct. 9, 2018 at 1:29 p.m.
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Very valid. Only Stan knows whether Corey can truly come back or not...however...it's kinda the warning sign for PIT fans. Crow has been out for 10+ months and for Murray...2nd concussion in 9 months...3rd for his short career. It's honestly not about hockey anymore. He just came off months of rest and played in 2 games. I guess not enough time to get better. I think there should be real consideration about him being pulled for the rest of the year.


In that case they should make a move on one of the A1/A2 goalies.
My choice would be Nilsson, he was f:ing AMAZING during WC and is a very underrated goalie who've spent most of his NHL career behind awful defense. Even behind awful defense he produced a .927 with Buffalo in 16/17.
Oct. 9, 2018 at 2:29 p.m.
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Why would Chicago and Ottawa ever do any of this mad gab?
Oct. 9, 2018 at 2:35 p.m.
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Edited Oct. 9, 2018 at 2:42 p.m.
Quoting: dorby
Why would Chicago and Ottawa ever do any of this mad gab?


CHI would do this because Kunitz really isn't working out. it's been a short set of games AND it's not like he's been terrible, but after watching these games...he doesn't really seem to fit. If CHI kept him...fine because it's not a lot of money, but he knows PIT's system and they could utilize him better. Forsberg is a solid goalie, but what happens when Crawford comes back? They can't send him down to Rockford without waiving him...so they'll end up giving him away for free because both Ward and Crow have NMCs. OR CHI holds 3 goalies in the NHL. CHI has the cap space and can roll the dice on Hagelin. His contract is up after this year and won't impede any future signings. ***EDIT*** I'm a CHI fan too so there's no PIT bias on that trade.

OTT - Duchene has been VERY outspoken over the years about how he doesn't like being part of a rebuild. OTT needs to either sign him (which I don't think is likely) or trade him. OTT getting a good forward prospect and a 1st rounder which is about what he will command.
Oct. 18, 2018 at 4:35 p.m.
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CHI would do this because Kunitz really isn't working out. it's been a short set of games AND it's not like he's been terrible, but after watching these games...he doesn't really seem to fit. If CHI kept him...fine because it's not a lot of money, but he knows PIT's system and they could utilize him better. Forsberg is a solid goalie, but what happens when Crawford comes back? They can't send him down to Rockford without waiving him...so they'll end up giving him away for free because both Ward and Crow have NMCs. OR CHI holds 3 goalies in the NHL. CHI has the cap space and can roll the dice on Hagelin. His contract is up after this year and won't impede any future signings. ***EDIT*** I'm a CHI fan too so there's no PIT bias on that trade.

OTT - Duchene has been VERY outspoken over the years about how he doesn't like being part of a rebuild. OTT needs to either sign him (which I don't think is likely) or trade him. OTT getting a good forward prospect and a 1st rounder which is about what he will command.


You make some good points, but I still ain't buyin' brother.
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