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Huge carolina trade Take 2

Created by: Hackadart
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 8, 2018
Published: Nov. 8, 2018
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Upgrade on forward for carolina, still strong defense to contemd in a couple of years, for leafs huge defensive upgrade and assuming nylander wouldnt play its an upgrade upfront too
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
1$950,000
1$850,000
1$8,000,000
8$11,500,000
1$950,000
2$1,250,000
7$6,000,000
2$1,350,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$850,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Pesce, Brett
  2. Slavin, Jaccob
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Teuvo Teravainen
CAR
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. 2020 1st round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Kasperi Kapanen
William Nylander
2.
TOR
  1. 2019 2nd round pick (COL)
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2019
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$76,755,833$0$132,500$5,744,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RW
UFA - 6
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$11,500,000$11,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
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$767,500$767,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RD
UFA
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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Nov. 8, 2018 at 9:29 p.m.
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Are you sure you don’t want to add a few more of Carolinas dmen for average talent?

To be clear teuvo = nylander maybe a pick difference

You don’t get slavin and Pesce for the rest of that package imo
Nov. 8, 2018 at 9:46 p.m.
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Are you sure you don’t want to add a few more of Carolinas dmen for average talent?

To be clear teuvo = nylander maybe a pick difference

You don’t get slavin and Pesce for the rest of that package imo


Teravainen at nylanders age = 35pts Nylander is worth far more than teravainen, liljegren and a first for slavin is tilted in leafs favour but together that all evens out and pesce for kappy id in leafs favour but not by a ridiculous amount, thats just the cost when you really want nylander like carolina does
Nov. 8, 2018 at 9:56 p.m.
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Teravainen at nylanders age = 35pts Nylander is worth far more than teravainen, liljegren and a first for slavin is tilted in leafs favour but together that all evens out and pesce for kappy id in leafs favour but not by a ridiculous amount, thats just the cost when you really want nylander like carolina does


Well it’s a good thing teuvo isn’t his age and scored 64 points last season. The past seems irrelevant since you’re not getting that version of teuvo right ?

Kappy for Pesce? In what world. Ugh I give up with leaf fans

So maybe Matthews for Mcdavid? Marner for laine? Maybe Anderson for Holtby or price? Reily for hedmen? Why stop at kappy for Pesce
Nov. 8, 2018 at 10:00 p.m.
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Well it’s a good thing teuvo isn’t his age and scored 64 points last season. The past seems irrelevant since you’re not getting that version of teuvo right ?

Kappy for Pesce? In what world. Ugh I give up with leaf fans

So maybe Matthews for Mcdavid? Marner for laine? Maybe Anderson for Holtby or price? Reily for hedmen? Why stop at kappy for Pesce


The point that you have completely missed is if carolina wants to contend in a year dor two nylander should be an 80 pt player, something that i doubt teuvo will ever be, and pesce for kappy is not fair value, i made that very clear but when in a bidding war for Nylander you have to overpay somewhere in that trade, and sidenote holtby isnt worth andersen
Nov. 8, 2018 at 10:08 p.m.
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The point that you have completely missed is if carolina wants to contend in a year dor two nylander should be an 80 pt player, something that i doubt teuvo will ever be, and pesce for kappy is not fair value, i made that very clear but when in a bidding war for Nylander you have to overpay somewhere in that trade, and sidenote holtby isnt worth andersen


Holtby is a way better goalie. He won the vez, was top 3 in voting 3/4 years , holds the record for most wins in a season and just won the cup. Yeah Anderson isn’t even in Holtbys class I’m sorry.

And based off what is nylander going to jump from a .75 ppg player to a ppg player? He’s not even playing in the nhl right now? They basically had the same stats last season. And teuvo played w lesser talent
Nov. 8, 2018 at 10:10 p.m.
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The point that you have completely missed is if carolina wants to contend in a year dor two nylander should be an 80 pt player, something that i doubt teuvo will ever be, and pesce for kappy is not fair value, i made that very clear but when in a bidding war for Nylander you have to overpay somewhere in that trade, and sidenote holtby isnt worth andersen


Haha omg I thought Anderson was young they are the same age. What ever you are smokin please pass it unless you are trolling. Holtby is a top 3 goalie. Anderson is maybe 6-10
Nov. 8, 2018 at 10:14 p.m.
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Holtby is a way better goalie. He won the vez, was top 3 in voting 3/4 years , holds the record for most wins in a season and just won the cup. Yeah Anderson isn’t even in Holtbys class I’m sorry.

And based off what is nylander going to jump from a .75 ppg player to a ppg player? He’s not even playing in the nhl right now? They basically had the same stats last season. And teuvo played w lesser talent


2 years of development is the difference.. between 22 and 24 teuvo went from 35 to 64 pts. The same way most players grow and get alot more points in that age frame, nylander at 22 already 61 pts. By the time he is 24 80 pts. Is an entirely fair estimate
Nov. 8, 2018 at 10:17 p.m.
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Haha omg I thought Anderson was young they are the same age. What ever you are smokin please pass it unless you are trolling. Holtby is a top 3 goalie. Anderson is maybe 6-10


Holtby last year .907 this year .899
Andersen last year .918 this year .929
Idgaf who was better 3-4 or 5 years ago, the last two its all freddy
Nov. 8, 2018 at 10:19 p.m.
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2 years of development is the difference.. between 22 and 24 teuvo went from 35 to 64 pts. The same way most players grow and get alot more points in that age frame, nylander at 22 already 61 pts. By the time he is 24 80 pts. Is an entirely fair estimate


Or playing w Austin Matthews.... I don’t see him putting up those numbers playing w Jordan staal or task hah. Kappy is a great example of what playing w Matthews does tonyour boxscores.
Nov. 8, 2018 at 10:22 p.m.
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Holtby last year .907 this year .899
Andersen last year .918 this year .929
Idgaf who was better 3-4 or 5 years ago, the last two its all freddy


Whats his playoff numbers? And you obviously gaf about the past bc you brought up tuevo at 22. Haha

Yeah last year Holtby posted great numbers while caring his team to the cup. Anderson was watching from his couch. I’d take Murray over Anderson
Nov. 8, 2018 at 10:29 p.m.
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Whats his playoff numbers? And you obviously gaf about the past bc you brought up tuevo at 22. Haha

Yeah last year Holtby posted great numbers while caring his team to the cup. Anderson was watching from his couch. I’d take Murray over Anderson


1. That series was all the defense fault, boston learned how to destroy them and freddy had no chance
2. This trade fixes that d
3. Holtby has lost his starting job multiple times in his career and its happening again
4. Youre right anderson was at home on his couch cause he plays for the ottawa senators who didnt make the playoffs
5. Age is relevant in a nylander trade because he is 22 and teuvo is 24.. if holtby was 25 i would compare him to 25 year old freddy and say wow he his way better.. but he is not.. they are the same age, that is why the past is irrelevant
Nov. 8, 2018 at 10:35 p.m.
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1. That series was all the defense fault, boston learned how to destroy them and freddy had no chance
2. This trade fixes that d
3. Holtby has lost his starting job multiple times in his career and its happening again
4. Youre right anderson was at home on his couch cause he plays for the ottawa senators who didnt make the playoffs
5. Age is relevant in a nylander trade because he is 22 and teuvo is 24.. if holtby was 25 i would compare him to 25 year old freddy and say wow he his way better.. but he is not.. they are the same age, that is why the past is irrelevant


Holtby just won the game vs Pitt idk how he’s losing his job? Goalie tend to get tired when they play past the first round. Maybe Freddy will understand that feeling one day

Freddy got fried haha he looked like an ahl goalie and Boston loved it.

Either way they both watch Holtby raise that cup smile

Matthews might struggle to get 80 points in a year so I highly doubt nylander can ha but hey it’s your opinion and if want to use your imagination and ignore facts that’s fine.
Nov. 8, 2018 at 11:36 p.m.
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Holtby just won the game vs Pitt idk how he’s losing his job? Goalie tend to get tired when they play past the first round. Maybe Freddy will understand that feeling one day

Freddy got fried haha he looked like an ahl goalie and Boston loved it.

Either way they both watch Holtby raise that cup smile

Matthews might struggle to get 80 points in a year so I highly doubt nylander can ha but hey it’s your opinion and if want to use your imagination and ignore facts that’s fine.


Idk why u keep talking about washington winnin the cup like it hurts me, i was cheering for wash the second tor was out (mostly cause i wanted to see pittsburgh and tampa lose but never the less i was happy when they won), and we can look back on this in a few years to see if matthews and nylander have 80 point seasons, until then good luck to ur caps ?
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