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Kyles best trade partner

Created by: PuckPal
Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 11, 2018
Published: Nov. 11, 2018
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So other teams will put a bid in something tells me the team that repeatedly called the leafs if they were ready to trade are going to come in as the winner. They obviously want nylander and have the capspace to meet his ridiculous demands. But though they want him they have to make an offer that the leafs can look at and say we did get a fair value for him. Pesce though on a good contract is not by himself worth Nylander but adding a solid 2/3line LW and a potential future bottom 6 centre could seal the deal. Johnsson has potential to be a solid winger but can't get on the ice and could be a kapanen type wing given the opportunity and a 2nd gives fair value. This trade solidifies both CAR and TOR with one trade.
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CAR
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (TOR)
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Nylander Rights
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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2020
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Logo of the EDM
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$65,967,500$2,550,000$5,470,000$13,532,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,850,000$3M)
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$746,667$746,667 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$650,000$650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 11, 2018 at 4:19 p.m.
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For a guy who could be as foundational a player as Sebastian Aho, I don't think you're getting enough here. Nylander alone should be worth that group. Add in Johnsson and a second and I think the Hurricanes should give us Pesce, Foegele, Morgan Geekie and Janne Kuokkanen.
Nov. 11, 2018 at 6:28 p.m.
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Personally, I think you have to shoot higher. We don't want to make a trade where the sum of the parts we are getting equals Nylander. We only get to make this trade once!

As Grapes says," Whoever gets the best player in the trade, wins the trade."
Nov. 11, 2018 at 6:37 p.m.
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Personally, I think you have to shoot higher. We don't want to make a trade where the sum of the parts we are getting equals Nylander. We only get to make this trade once!

As Grapes says," Whoever gets the best player in the trade, wins the trade."


I get that but who says that he will be the best player look at how he struggled without matthews last year, and when matthews was being double teamed in the playoffs. He might end up being a great player but he may end up being an overpaid whiney b***h that will never reach his full potential.
Nov. 11, 2018 at 6:53 p.m.
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I get that but who says that he will be the best player look at how he struggled without matthews last year, and when matthews was being double teamed in the playoffs. He might end up being a great player but he may end up being an overpaid whiney b***h that will never reach his full potential.


Fair enough. I think you should put yourself in Nylander's shoes though. They both want a long term deal. If they are 1.5 million off in AAV that adds up to $12,000,000 over the course of the deal. That's a ton of money and probably more then I will earn in a lifetime at my mid level job.
Nov. 11, 2018 at 7:03 p.m.
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Fair enough. I think you should put yourself in Nylander's shoes though. They both want a long term deal. If they are 1.5 million off in AAV that adds up to $12,000,000 over the course of the deal. That's a ton of money and probably more then I will earn in a lifetime at my mid level job.


Yeah but he doesn't even want a bridge to even prove hes worth 8 million. Thats the issue here he doesn't want a bridge nor take less whan what everyone is saying is an overpayment. So what should the leafs do sign him at 1.5 more than value and trade another core player to makeup the difference? If this was a soft cap your argurment would be understandable but unfortunately he is in a hard cap league and needs a better understanding if his value.
Nov. 11, 2018 at 7:12 p.m.
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Yeah but he doesn't even want a bridge to even prove hes worth 8 million. Thats the issue here he doesn't want a bridge nor take less whan what everyone is saying is an overpayment. So what should the leafs do sign him at 1.5 more than value and trade another core player to makeup the difference? If this was a soft cap your argurment would be understandable but unfortunately he is in a hard cap league and needs a better understanding if his value.


That's true. Value is something that is tough to establish when you are talking about potential though. I honestly believe that the Leafs will take this down to the wire and if they had to, would make him sit for the year.
Nov. 11, 2018 at 7:42 p.m.
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That's true. Value is something that is tough to establish when you are talking about potential though. I honestly believe that the Leafs will take this down to the wire and if they had to, would make him sit for the year.


They may but they will only do thay if they feel it will make him come down in asking price but if they feel it will do nothing than he will need to go. I don't like it but if they can tidy up their holes and though pesce is playing 2nd pair he has proven to be able to play top pair min against elite talant and played well. Pesce is a Martinez/Muzzin type dman and LA won a cup with that paired with Doughty. So though letting him sit may happen that is only if there isn't a trade that the leafs feel is worth it.
 
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