Murphy isn't that good, Leafs don't need a 4C, and they could get much better defenders for Brown or Johnsson

Again, you don't know what you're talking about. On a team of bad defenders, Murphy and Jokiharju are two of the bright spots with Murphy being a plus 7 and 5 points in 18 games (was on IR at the beginning of the season). He's a solid 2nd line pairing, certainly better then Zaitsev and exactly the kind of player TOR needs.

Your argument loses all value when you bring up +/-, it's the most useless stat ever, and using points to evaluate a defender may be even dumber. I'll admit that Murphy plays tough minutes, but if he's so good, shouldn't he excel in said minutes? Shouldn't he post a better xGA in the 35th percentile? Shouldn't his high PDO correlate to somewhat better results? Murphy isn't that good, there's no other way to look at it.

You're clearly not watching games. Murphy has been pretty clearly a shut down guy for the Hawks. I'm not an advocate whatsoever to give him up. From the last 100 games he's played versus the last 30 games he's played, it's night and day difference in his ability. And yes, +/- is an important stat as it relates to defenders with more focus on the minus side. He's a solid 2nd liner for all but the best defensive teams in the league, and guess what, TOR is hardly one of those top defensive teams. They could use him in spades especially on the right side hands down. Now whether you think the trade is fair is a different story but to say Murphy isn't that good is simply ignorance.

Brown is on the 4th line, he has little value, Johansson makes the deal fair, plus Kruger is a player that would thrive under Babcock and help out immensely defensively. Sikura is a nice sweetener that can be a cheap 3rd liner next season.

I mean, you have a Hawks profile pic, so i clearly trust that you know what you are saying.

Murphy is better than Zaitsev with a cheaper cap hit. It's not a bad trade for TOR as they get Sikura in return to replace Johnsson next season. Brown has 16 points this season and has found himself on line 4. He won't be missed.

Brown is only on the 4th line because he's in Toronto. He's a former 20 goal scorer so he probably has more than a "little" value. As I said, Johnsson can be used to get a Pietrangelo type player, not Murphy. Leafs don't need Kruger, they're sorted out at 4C, and Sikura is nice but the Leafs have some depth in the AHL with guys like Moore, Grundstrom, Bracco, them giving up Johnsson is a real hole in this deal

Oh I get it, somebody's opinion who rarely sees Murphy play should be trusted over the person that watches every one of his games...yeah that's logical

Ummmm yeah i dont know if ur interpreting it wrong, but what im saying is i trust your thoughts and opinions on Connor Murphy more than the other guy since u have a Hawks profile pic (stating that u clearly know the team well)

"+/- is an important stat". Nobody should ever take anything you say seriously. You should not, at any point, believe that +/- matters. Ron Hainsey is top 5 for +/- this year, does that automatically make him good? +/- rewards 5 players for a 5v5 goal, when at most 3 players can't contribute to it, at the same time, it can punish 5 players for a mistake of 1 player. All in all, it adds no value to a player and doesn't show any indication of how good they are.

For defense, as I said, it means more especially on the negative side as the D is large in part responsible for any goal that goes in. GA is a better stat for defense but +/- gives a general idea of how a player is gelling. If it was of no importance, none of the hockey world would report on it. I can't take you seriously or anything you say when you think the stat is all together useless...it tells me you've probably never played the game at a high level to think so.