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Created by: Billy739
Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 29, 2019
Published: Jan. 29, 2019
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Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2020 4th round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
-if WSH Wins the Cup With Aggistino meeting the minimum requirements to have his name on the cup then the 4th pick becomes a 2nd in 2020
WSH
  1. Agostino, Kenny
Additional Details:
@ TDL for added depth for the Cup Defending Capitals
2.
MTL
  1. Sanheim, Travis
Additional Details:
PHI needs a top 4 RD prospect that's NHL ready and Juulsen fits the bill. he's a year younger and hasnt played as big of a role as Sanheim to date in PHI but his production is on pace with Sanheim overall with juulsen being the better defender of the two .
PHI
  1. Juulsen, Noah
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MTL does this because we got RD prospects but with Romanov contracted in Russia until 2020 we need to move on a youth LD .
3.
DET
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (MTL)
  3. 2019 4th round pick (CGY)
  4. 2020 5th round pick (MTL)
4.
LAK
  1. Fleury, Cale
  2. 2019 2nd round pick (MTL)
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$79,500,000$75,357,975$0$3,082,500$4,142,025

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Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,800,000$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 3
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 3
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$839,166$839,166
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 2
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$650,000$650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 8
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 8
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$900,000$900,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 1
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$748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 3
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$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 29, 2019 at 8:18 p.m.
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you need to add at least a 2nd round pick to the philly deal and even then i doubt they do it. Sanheim has been solid while Juulsen cant manage to stay in the nhl.
Jan. 29, 2019 at 8:21 p.m.
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Kings say no. Hudon sucks and the Kings are already logjammed with quality goaltending prospects. They don't need another one.

Make it a 2nd and Fleury and they'd probably do it.
Jan. 29, 2019 at 8:44 p.m.
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Habs accept all of these trades.
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Jan. 29, 2019 at 9:47 p.m.
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these trades are cool but i think byron is more valuable then anthanasiou. detroit needs to give up those picks for it to be equal in my opinion. and berg will never give up a 1st, with good reason, even if its conditional.
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Jan. 30, 2019 at 12:07 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 30, 2019 at 5:10 p.m. by Jarvis
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you need to add at least a 2nd round pick to the philly deal and even then i doubt they do it. Sanheim has been solid while Juulsen cant manage to stay in the nhl.



PHI has struggled to find Sanheim a spot even after Gostisbhere switched to rd with Mcdonald went down 2 years ago . my boss is a huge PHI fan and seen them live 2 times a year for the 6 years i've known him and he'd call you an asshat if you sad something so stupid infront of him as unlike Sanheim he doesnt have a Petry and a Weber infront of him to contend with Sanhaim just had players drafted after him who passed him in depth chart .
Jan. 30, 2019 at 12:08 p.m.
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these trades are cool but i think byron is more valuable then anthanasiou. detroit needs to give up those picks for it to be equal in my opinion. and berg will never give up a 1st, with good reason, even if its conditional.


i agree i just know DET fans look at his age as a factor so i over payed on here knowing in reality things would be just as you said
Jan. 30, 2019 at 12:17 p.m.
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Kings say no. Hudon sucks and the Kings are already logjammed with quality goaltending prospects. They don't need another one.

Make it a 2nd and Fleury and they'd probably do it.


that isnt what Sportsnet Professionals say , actually their Goaltending Analysis was exactly the opposite '' no one in the pipeline whos NHL ready to learn from Quick for 2-3 years and do you really want to rush and bust prospects ?''

the point they are trying to make is Lindgren is a good fit for now , LAK can increase his value and before he goes UFA just as their prospects are stepping up then you move him out because no one and i mean no one thinks Quick is returning to form with 3 back surgeries now and counting his time in the NHL is borrowed at this point.

honestly i think your version of the deal is way cheaper for MTL though and i'd take that however toffoli isnt worth more then Muzzin on any level in any reality .
Jan. 30, 2019 at 5:16 p.m.
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that isnt what Sportsnet Professionals say , actually their Goaltending Analysis was exactly the opposite '' no one in the pipeline whos NHL ready to learn from Quick for 2-3 years and do you really want to rush and bust prospects ?''

the point they are trying to make is Lindgren is a good fit for now , LAK can increase his value and before he goes UFA just as their prospects are stepping up then you move him out because no one and i mean no one thinks Quick is returning to form with 3 back surgeries now and counting his time in the NHL is borrowed at this point.

honestly i think your version of the deal is way cheaper for MTL though and i'd take that however toffoli isnt worth more then Muzzin on any level in any reality .


No one is suggesting that Tofolli is worth than Muzzin. A 2nd and Fleury is significantly less than a 1st, Durzi, and Grundstrom.

Kings currently have Campbell (age 27), who is 1st in the NHL in SV% and 2nd in the NHL in GAA, all while playing on arguably the worst team in the NHL. He's ready for a starting gig in the NHL right now.

However, Cal Petersen is the goaltender of the future for the Kings. He's 24, and has two AHL seasons under his belt already. He came up and played spectacularly for the dozen games or so that Quick and Campbell were both out with meniscus tears.

Matt Villalta is their 3rd goaltending prospect in the pipeline. He's currently 19 and was projected to be the starter for Canada's WJC team before he went down with an injury. He's currently playing his final year in junior before he comes up and plays in AHL-Ontario next season. He is a highly touted goaltender prospect, and that's even before the Kings goalie whisperers (Dusty Imoo and Bill Ranford) get their hands on him.

Campbell is under contract for one more season after this one, while Petersen is still on is ELC and is waiver exempt for this year and next. Villalta is only 19 and will eventually be Petersen's backup once Petersen takes over starting duties for Quick.

Nah, the Kings are solid on goaltenders. I don't know what Sportsnet article you read, but it's incredibly inaccurate.
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Jan. 30, 2019 at 7:09 p.m.
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No one is suggesting that Tofolli is worth than Muzzin. A 2nd and Fleury is significantly less than a 1st, Durzi, and Grundstrom.

Kings currently have Campbell (age 27), who is 1st in the NHL in SV% and 2nd in the NHL in GAA, all while playing on arguably the worst team in the NHL. He's ready for a starting gig in the NHL right now.

However, Cal Petersen is the goaltender of the future for the Kings. He's 24, and has two AHL seasons under his belt already. He came up and played spectacularly for the dozen games or so that Quick and Campbell were both out with meniscus tears.

Matt Villalta is their 3rd goaltending prospect in the pipeline. He's currently 19 and was projected to be the starter for Canada's WJC team before he went down with an injury. He's currently playing his final year in junior before he comes up and plays in AHL-Ontario next season. He is a highly touted goaltender prospect, and that's even before the Kings goalie whisperers (Dusty Imoo and Bill Ranford) get their hands on him.

Campbell is under contract for one more season after this one, while Petersen is still on is ELC and is waiver exempt for this year and next. Villalta is only 19 and will eventually be Petersen's backup once Petersen takes over starting duties for Quick.

Nah, the Kings are solid on goaltenders. I don't know what Sportsnet article you read, but it's incredibly inaccurate.


my bad i though you meant an additional 2nd as in two picks . in that case yeah thats fair .

Campbell is like many back ups who stepped up 1 season , but not a starter unless you want a Talbot situation in a Tandem even then with Muzzin out and Doughty/Martinez in the rumor mill i think you're going to see Campbell get exposed more and his stats will suffer same as they did in DAL before he showed up .

Petersen is good in small samples but even with quick down constantly LAK chooses not to lean on the 24 year old which tells me there is no one in LAK management that thinks he's more then a back up .

Villata is a mediocre OHL player comparable to our Mcniven and is a long term project who will likely be a journeyman goalie .

Lindgren is the only 2 x NCAA back to back Goalie of the year and has over achieved at every level . when Price went down Lindgren stepped up for MTL when Montoya failed . Lingren's no All Star but he's better then anything currently in LAK system and he earned his contract by not having an off year and having a huge compete level . over looked at the draft he was soon to shine at the NCAA level to the point he got his pick of teams and chose MTL as he's a life time fan as revealed by his mom in the Habs tv interview (he even learned french in Minnisota High School because he knew he'd need it to play in MTL so he's smart )
Jan. 30, 2019 at 7:12 p.m.
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my bad i though you meant an additional 2nd as in two picks . in that case yeah thats fair .

Campbell is like many back ups who stepped up 1 season , but not a starter unless you want a Talbot situation in a Tandem even then with Muzzin out and Doughty/Martinez in the rumor mill i think you're going to see Campbell get exposed more and his stats will suffer same as they did in DAL before he showed up .

Petersen is good in small samples but even with quick down constantly LAK chooses not to lean on the 24 year old which tells me there is no one in LAK management that thinks he's more then a back up .

Villata is a mediocre OHL player comparable to our Mcniven and is a long term project who will likely be a journeyman goalie .

Lindgren is the only 2 x NCAA back to back Goalie of the year and has over achieved at every level . when Price went down Lindgren stepped up for MTL when Montoya failed . Lingren's no All Star but he's better then anything currently in LAK system and he earned his contract by not having an off year and having a huge compete level . over looked at the draft he was soon to shine at the NCAA level to the point he got his pick of teams and chose MTL as he's a life time fan as revealed by his mom in the Habs tv interview (he even learned french in Minnisota High School because he knew he'd need it to play in MTL so he's smart )



just saying if LAK are relying on whats in their system they are going to be in gaoltender hell
Jan. 30, 2019 at 7:34 p.m.
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my bad i though you meant an additional 2nd as in two picks . in that case yeah thats fair .

Campbell is like many back ups who stepped up 1 season , but not a starter unless you want a Talbot situation in a Tandem even then with Muzzin out and Doughty/Martinez in the rumor mill i think you're going to see Campbell get exposed more and his stats will suffer same as they did in DAL before he showed up .

Petersen is good in small samples but even with quick down constantly LAK chooses not to lean on the 24 year old which tells me there is no one in LAK management that thinks he's more then a back up .

Villata is a mediocre OHL player comparable to our Mcniven and is a long term project who will likely be a journeyman goalie .

Lindgren is the only 2 x NCAA back to back Goalie of the year and has over achieved at every level . when Price went down Lindgren stepped up for MTL when Montoya failed . Lingren's no All Star but he's better then anything currently in LAK system and he earned his contract by not having an off year and having a huge compete level . over looked at the draft he was soon to shine at the NCAA level to the point he got his pick of teams and chose MTL as he's a life time fan as revealed by his mom in the Habs tv interview (he even learned french in Minnisota High School because he knew he'd need it to play in MTL so he's smart )


The only reason why Petersen isn't in the NHL full time right now is because he is waiver exempt and because Campbell is playing exceptionally well. Make no mistake, Petersen is the goalie of the future for the Kings. Both Mike Stothers (Ontario's head coach) and Dusty Imoo (Ontario's goalie coach) both have said that Petersen is the best goaltender they've ever gotten their hands on. Unless he suffers a major setback, he's Quick's future replacement and LA's goaltender of the future. They'd rather have him starting frequently in the AHL than sitting on the bench in the NHL.

Here's an article reviewing Petersen's play last season:

http://lakingsinsider.com/2018/07/12/reign-in-review-cal-petersen/

Regardless, Robitaille and Blake both said they're happy with the current state of the Kings goaltending. They're not going to move a young quality player from their position of weakness (Toffoli) for a prospect in their position of strength (Lindgren). I'd take Petersen over Lindgren every day of the week.
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Jan. 30, 2019 at 8:54 p.m.
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The only reason why Petersen isn't in the NHL full time right now is because he is waiver exempt and because Campbell is playing exceptionally well. Make no mistake, Petersen is the goalie of the future for the Kings. Both Mike Stothers (Ontario's head coach) and Dusty Imoo (Ontario's goalie coach) both have said that Petersen is the best goaltender they've ever gotten their hands on. Unless he suffers a major setback, he's Quick's future replacement and LA's goaltender of the future. They'd rather have him starting frequently in the AHL than sitting on the bench in the NHL.

Here's an article reviewing Petersen's play last season:

http://lakingsinsider.com/2018/07/12/reign-in-review-cal-petersen/

Regardless, Robitaille and Blake both said they're happy with the current state of the Kings goaltending. They're not going to move a young quality player from their position of weakness (Toffoli) for a prospect in their position of strength (Lindgren). I'd take Petersen over Lindgren every day of the week.


i give you that Petersen is good but honestly i think Longterm he's a starter anymore then you seem to think Lindgren is .

in the end i just changed the trade to what you suggested as as Fleury has no real chance of bumping off Weber ,Petry ,Juulsen or Brook for that matter . He's good and Fleury has real potential as a Power Play Specialist but he's basically playing for the same position Brook is who is a much better skater .
Jan. 30, 2019 at 9:27 p.m.
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i give you that Petersen is good but honestly i think Longterm he's a starter anymore then you seem to think Lindgren is .

in the end i just changed the trade to what you suggested as as Fleury has no real chance of bumping off Weber ,Petry ,Juulsen or Brook for that matter . He's good and Fleury has real potential as a Power Play Specialist but he's basically playing for the same position Brook is who is a much better skater .


I don't disagree that Lindgren will be a quality starting goaltender in the NHL. My only point was that the scoring-challenged Kings aren't going to trade away one of their most prolific scorers to upgrade a position that they're already solid at. Since Petersen is just as solid (if not moreso), there's no reason for the Kings to trade for Lindgren.

Defensive depth is a problem on the Kings. Fleury would help out immensely. I do think they'd consider trading Toffoli for Fleury, assuming the 2nd round pick came back as well.
 
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