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2nd Round Exits Arent Good Enough

Created by: Hawkisles
Initial Creation Date: May 3, 2019
Published: May 3, 2019 at 10:43
Team: 2019-20 New York Islanders
Team Explanation
Look me in the eye and tell me this team could win a Cup.

If you can’t, we need to make big moves.

And congrats to the Canes. No question you deserve to advance.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Beauvillier, Anthony3$2,500,000
Dal Colle, Michael4$1,600,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Eberle, Jordan4$6,000,000
Lehner, Robin3$5,000,000
Lee, Anders6$7,000,000
Nelson, Brock3$5,000,000
Filppula, Valtteri2$2,500,000
Buyouts
  • Rick DiPietro: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
NYI
CGY
NYI
NYI
NYI
2020
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
2021
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,000,000$71,896,666$0$400,000$11,103,334
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYI
Lee, Anders
$7,000,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 7
NYI
Barzal, Mathew
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
NYI
Eberle, Jordan
$6,000,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 5
NYI
Beauvillier, Anthony
$2,500,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYI
Nelson, Brock
$5,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
NYI
Bailey, Josh
$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
NYI
Dal Colle, Michael
$1,600,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYI
Filppula, Valtteri
$2,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
NYI
Komarov, Leo
$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
NTC
UFA - 3
NYI
Martin, Matt
$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
NYI
Cizikas, Casey
$3,350,000
C
UFA - 2
NYI
Clutterbuck, Cal
$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 3
NYI
Johnston, Ross
$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYI
Pelech, Adam
$1,600,000
LD
RFA - 2
NYI
Pulock, Ryan
$2,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
NYI
Lehner, Robin
$5,000,000
G
UFA - 1
NYI
Toews, Devon
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
NYI
Mayfield, Scott
$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 4
NYI
Greiss, Thomas
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
NYI
Leddy, Nick
$5,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
NYI
Boychuk, Johnny
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
NYI
Hickey, Thomas
$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYI
Ladd, Andrew
$5,500,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 4

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May 4, 2019 at 10:52
#26
Joined: Oct 2016
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Quoting: Random2152
There are different types of pdo. Good teams tend to be a bit higher than 100, and it is sustainable.

Teams like the islanders have unsustainable PDO and are due to regress, like the leafs run. In 2013


The 2013 leafs were garbage. And given that the isles won a round and the leafs (2013, 2017, 2018, 2019) didn’t, I take that the Isles aren’t garbage
May 4, 2019 at 2:07
#27
Just Keep Swimming
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Quoting: linehan10
The 2013 leafs were garbage. And given that the isles won a round and the leafs (2013, 2017, 2018, 2019) didn’t, I take that the Isles aren’t garbage


This is a bad take then.
They were carried by unreasonably hot goaltending and weird career years from random guys.
They are just as **** as the 2013 leafs, and if your management makes the same mistake ours did.... Just hope there is another Nathan Horton out there.
May 4, 2019 at 5:12
#28
Joined: Oct 2016
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Quoting: Random2152
This is a bad take then.
They were carried by unreasonably hot goaltending and weird career years from random guys.
They are just as **** as the 2013 leafs, and if your management makes the same mistake ours did.... Just hope there is another Nathan Horton out there.


Hot goaltending doesn’t span the entire season.

Nobody had career years either, outside of the netminders in their first season playing in a defense first system. Only Ryan Pulock I suppose, and he’s gonna be a Norris candidate for years to come.
May 4, 2019 at 6:59
#29
Just Keep Swimming
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Quoting: linehan10
Hot goaltending doesn’t span the entire season.

Nobody had career years either, outside of the netminders in their first season playing in a defense first system. Only Ryan Pulock I suppose, and he’s gonna be a Norris candidate for years to come.


James Reimer, 2012-13 season.
Yes sir it does

And check who your top scorers were for a minute. Last I checked Filppula was 8th
May 4, 2019 at 8:01
#30
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 3,413
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Quoting: Random2152
James Reimer, 2012-13 season.
Yes sir it does

And check who your top scorers were for a minute. Last I checked Filppula was 8th


Every single player had less points than last season except like Komarov what are you on about
May 4, 2019 at 9:48
#31
Just Keep Swimming
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Quoting: linehan10
Every single player had less points than last season except like Komarov what are you on about


My apologies, I meant leading scorers and 'top players' when I said weird people having career years.
My bad.

Also, are we gonna ignore the whole goalies don't stay got for a year thing even though they obviously do?
May 5, 2019 at 9:04
#32
Joined: Oct 2016
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Quoting: Random2152
My apologies, I meant leading scorers and 'top players' when I said weird people having career years.
My bad.

Also, are we gonna ignore the whole goalies don't stay got for a year thing even though they obviously do?


Maybe goalies don’t stay hot for an entire season, but it’s not like Greiss nor Lehner are slouches. Greiss had a .925 in 2016 and Lehner had a .920 just two seasons ago. Greiss suffered problems at the hands of the awful defense in 2017 and Lehner suffered problems at the hands of himself. Both recovered and played to the potential they can.
May 5, 2019 at 1:43
#33
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Quoting: linehan10
Maybe goalies don’t stay hot for an entire season, but it’s not like Greiss nor Lehner are slouches. Greiss had a .925 in 2016 and Lehner had a .920 just two seasons ago. Greiss suffered problems at the hands of the awful defense in 2017 and Lehner suffered problems at the hands of himself. Both recovered and played to the potential they can.


I'm not saying that they are bad goalies, just that we shouldn't expect them to stay at a .930 next year. .915 would be much more reasonable, and once that is accounted for this team is not a playoff team, that is what PDO regression means in this case.
May 5, 2019 at 1:50
#34
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Quoting: Random2152
I'm not saying that they are bad goalies, just that we shouldn't expect them to stay at a .930 next year. .915 would be much more reasonable, and once that is accounted for this team is not a playoff team, that is what PDO regression means in this case.


They are a playoff team cause they made the playoffs. That’s how this works. Also, the PDO argument is sorta weird cause they had the sixth most high danger chances in the NHL this year despite having a pretty rough offense. They take advantage of the good chances they get, and work for the good chances. They’ll make it back every year for the foreseeable future.
 
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