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Avs Perspective from Pens Trade

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Team: 2019-20 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: May 13, 2019
Published: May 13, 2019
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AVS perspective of blockbuster Pens trade
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/223897&post_id=850637

Can speculate how they would fill out the rest of their roster. Still have over 8M in cap space to work with.

I have them drafting Kaliyev at 16 and Knight at 21. They could also try and package those picks and move back up but this is supposed to be a deep draft and they would be getting a franchise goalie and one of the drafts best goal scorers. IMO the 4th OA pick is expendable for them because they are now officially in win now mode and their core is set with Mackinnon, Landeskog, Rantanen, Kessel, Barrie and Makar. This trade honestly just makes a lot of sense for both teams.

I would throw money at Kevin Hayes or Brock Nelson in FA after this as well.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,250,000
4$4,250,000
8$9,500,000
3$3,250,000
1$1,000,000
1$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Knight, Spencer
3$925,000
Kaliyev, Arthur
3$925,000
Trades
COL
PIT
  1. Cole, Ian
  2. 2019 1st round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,000,000$78,882,986$0$3,532,500$4,117,014

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
UFA - 4
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 6
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$885,833$885,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C
UFA - 7
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$6,800,000$6,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 4
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,975,000$1,975,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$3,333,225$3,333,225
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$675,000$675,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 1

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May 13, 2019 at 7:35 p.m.
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Im afraid kerfoot/jost has to go to pittsburgh in this deal
May 13, 2019 at 7:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Im afraid kerfoot/jost has to go to pittsburgh in this deal


Really? As a Pens fan I would be alright with this deal as is. Jarry isn't needed because we have Murray. Maatta-Cole swap is fine with me and getting the 4OA pick for Kessel + 21 will be worth it if the Pens get Bowen Byram. I think its a win-win for both teams.
May 13, 2019 at 7:42 p.m.
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Really? As a Pens fan I would be alright with this deal as is. Jarry isn't needed because we have Murray. Maatta-Cole swap is fine with me and getting the 4OA pick for Kessel + 21 will be worth it if the Pens get Bowen Byram.


I dont see the need with petterson and dumoulin, maybe podkolzin would be a great pickup to play with malkin?
May 13, 2019 at 7:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
I dont see the need with petterson and dumoulin, maybe podkolzin would be a great pickup to play with malkin?


Im not big on Petterson at all I think his ceiling is a bottom pairing dman. Byram wouldn't play till the year after but hes a cornerstone player IMO. Plus Schultz is probably gone after this year as well unless he takes a pay cut.
May 13, 2019 at 7:46 p.m.
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Quoting: ChampEddy
Im not big on Petterson at all I think his ceiling is a bottom pairing dman. Byram wouldn't play till the year after but hes a cornerstone player IMO. Plus Schultz is probably gone after this year as well unless he takes a pay cut.


Addison can always takeover and you use stop gaps on the bottom pair like any other team
May 13, 2019 at 7:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Addison can always takeover and you use stop gaps on the bottom pair like any other team


Yeah Addison will hopefully be ready for NHL by then. He`s similar to Schultz I think that was the idea behind drafting him. But Byram will step right in next year and be an elite Dman for 15 years. I think hes that good and a lot of people agree. 2020 D could look like Dumo-Letang
Byram-Gudbranson Cole-Petterson/Addison
May 13, 2019 at 9:52 p.m.
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Avs hang up, pretty simple there
May 13, 2019 at 10:03 p.m.
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Avs hang up, pretty simple there


Most people seem to think the other way around. I think its pretty fair and benefits both teams.
May 13, 2019 at 10:08 p.m.
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Quoting: ChampEddy
Most people seem to think the other way around. I think its pretty fair and benefits both teams.


so one guy in Ragsandbluesfan commenting on it is most people... Yeah I dont think so bud

The 4th is too valuable, Cole is the perfect depth Dman who is a big cog on the Avs blue line, who hated his last season with the Pens with how they treated him. No way he wants to go back there.

Jarry is a busted Goalie Prospect and Määttä sucks and Avs have 0 interest in those pieces. So it comes down is the 4th and Cole for Kessel and the 21st. I would 100 times out of a 100 keep the 4th and Cole
May 13, 2019 at 11:47 p.m.
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Terrible for the Avs. Maybe if it's the 16th overall I'd do it.
May 14, 2019 at 12:08 a.m.
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so one guy in Ragsandbluesfan commenting on it is most people... Yeah I dont think so bud

The 4th is too valuable, Cole is the perfect depth Dman who is a big cog on the Avs blue line, who hated his last season with the Pens with how they treated him. No way he wants to go back there.

Jarry is a busted Goalie Prospect and Määttä sucks and Avs have 0 interest in those pieces. So it comes down is the 4th and Cole for Kessel and the 21st. I would 100 times out of a 100 keep the 4th and Cole


Most people Ive talked to about the idea. But I agree with the Cole thing. Maatta doesnt suck thats just people ganging up on him here. Disagree with Jarry too. He`s not a deal breaker in this trade but its a nice piece. He would be a cheap backup goalie with upside. And the idea is at 21 they get their franchise goalie anyways. While also adding Kessel, who is premier scorer at 6.8M per year. A player at 4 overall isn't going to make an impact like Kessel will for a few years. Avs should be all in while their core is young and in their prime. I think if you look at the big picture the Avs get a pretty damn good deal.

What if it was Zadorov or a defensive prospect and 4th for Kessel, 21st, Maatta, Jarry and a decent prospect? I don`t think the value was far off but If I was Pens I`d throw in another piece to get it done if needed.
May 14, 2019 at 12:09 a.m.
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Terrible for the Avs. Maybe if it's the 16th overall I'd do it.


That's ridiculous
 
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