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Why the Bolts SHOULD STAY AWAY from Ristolainen

Created by: Zwui21
Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: May 30, 2019
Published: May 30, 2019
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This is for all the guys on here saying we should go after Ristolainen. We should definitely stay away.

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May 30, 2019 at 9:29 a.m.
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https://www.rawcharge.com/2019/5/30/18645356/should-the-tampa-bay-lightning-be-interested-in-rasmus-ristolainen-buffalo-sabres-nhl-trade-rumors

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"he’s terrible at being a defensemen. The chart above provides a quick look at the towering Finn. He’s a drag to his team in every category except on the power-play—an area the Lightning have already two great defensemen quarterbacking in Victor Hedman and Mikhail Sergachev."
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May 30, 2019 at 9:30 a.m.
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I personally think all teams should stay away from bad players making a lot of money. ristro falls under the terrible defenseman making way to much category
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May 30, 2019 at 9:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Zwui21
https://www.rawcharge.com/2019/5/30/18645356/should-the-tampa-bay-lightning-be-interested-in-rasmus-ristolainen-buffalo-sabres-nhl-trade-rumors

TLDR:
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"he’s terrible at being a defensemen. The chart above provides a quick look at the towering Finn. He’s a drag to his team in every category except on the power-play—an area the Lightning have already two great defensemen quarterbacking in Victor Hedman and Mikhail Sergachev."


Stats don't show the full picture just like the eye test doesn't show the full picture. The stats argument against risto is a scape goat. He's a very good pp qb and is a tough dman to play against. Ask Ovi, risto always gives him a tough time.
May 30, 2019 at 9:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Jack_
I personally think all teams should stay away from bad players making a lot of money. ristro falls under the terrible defenseman making way to much category


Risto making 5.4 is way too much? Come back to reality when you get a chance
May 30, 2019 at 9:36 a.m.
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Risto making 5.4 is way too much? Come back to reality when you get a chance


when Nikita zaitsev is providing more value defensively there is a problem
May 30, 2019 at 9:42 a.m.
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I 100% agree and I hope JBB knows it.
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May 30, 2019 at 9:47 a.m.
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Quoting: wojme
Stats don't show the full picture just like the eye test doesn't show the full picture. The stats argument against risto is a scape goat. He's a very good pp qb and is a tough dman to play against. Ask Ovi, risto always gives him a tough time.


When both the analytics and the eye test are against him, I wonder how you can still say he's good. He's physical, yes, and he's good in PP (as the article says - adding that Tampa doesn't need that in particular), but he's a defensive liability and he shows it every single night.
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May 30, 2019 at 10:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Jack_
when Nikita zaitsev is providing more value defensively there is a problem


That's very debatable. Maybe equal but zaitsev and his 14 points don't help in either zone.
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May 30, 2019 at 10:24 a.m.
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Nope take more then a 2020 2nd to move Callahan's contract, Probably at least Taylor Raddysh would need to be involved. Yzerman would want a young prospect coming back from Tampa and Raddysh would be a solid piece. Detroit is one of the teams rumored to be involved in Callahan deal along with the Sabres, Rangers and a few others.
May 30, 2019 at 11:22 a.m.
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Quoting: wojme
Stats don't show the full picture just like the eye test doesn't show the full picture. The stats argument against risto is a scape goat. He's a very good pp qb and is a tough dman to play against. Ask Ovi, risto always gives him a tough time.


Hes not a tough dman to play against. He gets torn through by 4th liners
May 30, 2019 at 11:24 a.m.
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When both the analytics and the eye test are against him, I wonder how you can still say he's good. He's physical, yes, and he's good in PP (as the article says - adding that Tampa doesn't need that in particular), but he's a defensive liability and he shows it every single night.


I think that's the appeal though. A quality team with a good defensive d partner can limit his defensive liabilities and allow him to be completely offensive. He'll also boost most powerplays he's on. Do I think TBL need him? No but maybe another contender. I think taking someone like McCabe makes more sense
 
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