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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 16, 2019
Published: Jun. 16, 2019
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6$9,500,000
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  1. Brooks, Adam
  2. Marleau, Patrick
  3. 2019 2nd round pick (TOR)
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23$83,000,000$82,743,865$0$132,500$256,135
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$750,000$750,000
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Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:20 p.m.
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Gross overpayment for Larsson
Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:21 p.m.
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Zaitsev and maybe a 3rd round pick but even then I still don't want Adam Larsson lol
Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:21 p.m.
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OTT is not going to help the leafs cap situation for scraps...OTT passes.
Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:23 p.m.
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OTT is not going to help the leafs cap situation for scraps...OTT passes.


If you understood how the cap works you would know it helps them also. Reaches the floor without actual spending.
Brooks and a 3rd are also not scraps but I dont see you understanding that either
Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:24 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfan14_
Gross overpayment for Larsson


You get out of Zaitzev a 5-6 RHD and get a legitimate top 4 RHD for less money. In what world is that an overpayment. Count you blessing and take it if the Oilers will make that deal.

As for Ottawa Marleau has a 3 million dollar signing bonus to be paid after the buyout window ends, if Ottowa is buying him out Toronto can't pay that Bonus.
Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Hinzee
You get out of Zaitzev a 5-6 RHD and get a legitimate top 4 RHD for less money. In what world is that an overpayment. Count you blessing and take it if the Oilers will make that deal.

As for Ottawa Marleau has a 3 million dollar signing bonus to be paid after the buyout window ends, if Ottowa is buying him out Toronto can't pay that Bonus.


**** you are right I keep forgetting.
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Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:26 p.m.
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Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Hinzee
You get out of Zaitzev a 5-6 RHD and get a legitimate top 4 RHD for less money. In what world is that an overpayment. Count you blessing and take it if the Oilers will make that deal.

As for Ottawa Marleau has a 3 million dollar signing bonus to be paid after the buyout window ends, if Ottowa is buying him out Toronto can't pay that Bonus.


You are obvious bad a player values and trades so I'm not gonna even bother with you. Good thing you are only a cap friendly GM and not a real GM LOL
Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:34 p.m.
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You are obvious bad a player values and trades so I'm not gonna even bother with you. Good thing you are only a cap friendly GM and not a real GM LOL


haha, says the guy who thinks Zaitsev and a 3rd could be a pass from a Leafs Perspective.
Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Hinzee
haha, says the guy who thinks Zaitsev and a 3rd could be a pass from a Leafs Perspective.


You do realize Larsson is basically edmontons version of Zaitsev right LOL just because your old gm traded Taylor hall for him doesn't mean he's worth a 1st, bracco and zaitsev LOL
Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:50 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfan14_
You do realize Larsson is basically edmontons version of Zaitsev right LOL just because your old gm traded Taylor hall for him doesn't mean he's worth a 1st, bracco and zaitsev LOL


Yes it does atually if that his value. He is way better than Zaitsev is does not take genus to figure that out. Zaitsev is a trash can at best. Hall was clearly an overpayment but Larsson still has decent value
Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:52 p.m.
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Yes it does atually if that his value. He is way better than Zaitsev is does not take genus to figure that out. Zaitsev is a trash can at best. Hall was clearly an overpayment but Larsson still has decent value


Larsson is not way better than zaitev LOL
Jun. 16, 2019 at 7:56 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfan14_
Larsson is not way better than zaitev LOL


Ok then
Jun. 16, 2019 at 8:06 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfan14_
You do realize Larsson is basically edmontons version of Zaitsev right LOL just because your old gm traded Taylor hall for him doesn't mean he's worth a 1st, bracco and zaitsev LOL


Except for the part where Larsson is better (by literally any metric which you would like to use), not overpaid and isn't asking for a trade. So yeah, good luck getting the Kings to retain 50% on Doughty for your all world package of Zaitsev Bracco and a 1st.
Jun. 16, 2019 at 8:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Hinzee
You get out of Zaitzev a 5-6 RHD and get a legitimate top 4 RHD for less money. In what world is that an overpayment. Count you blessing and take it if the Oilers will make that deal.

As for Ottawa Marleau has a 3 million dollar signing bonus to be paid after the buyout window ends, if Ottowa is buying him out Toronto can't pay that Bonus.


Right about Marleau wrong about zaitsev.

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Zaitsev and maybe a 3rd round pick but even then I still don't want Adam Larsson lol


I think your value is spot on here. I don’t know if that convinces Edmonton to take on more term though. Both players seem to need a fresh start. Larsson certainly wasn’t better than zaitsev last season. I think a 2nd or 3rd to make up for the extra money and term seems reasonable.
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Jun. 16, 2019 at 8:08 p.m.
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Right about Marleau wrong about zaitsev.



I think your value is spot on here. I don’t know if that convinces Edmonton to take on more term though. Both sides layers seem to need a fresh start. Larsson certainly wasn’t better than zaitsev last season. I think a 2nd or 3rd to make up for the extra money and term seems reasonable.

Zaitsev was the leafs worst dman by a mile last year. If they get any value out of him I would be surprised
Jun. 16, 2019 at 8:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Hinzee
Except for the part where Larsson is better (by literally any metric which you would like to use), not overpaid and isn't asking for a trade. So yeah, good luck getting the Kings to retain 50% on Doughty for your all world package of Zaitsev Bracco and a 1st.[/quote

I understand why your a little frustrated, this must not be fun to hear but Larsson isn't as great as you think I'm sorry lol..
Jun. 16, 2019 at 8:12 p.m.
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Zaitsev was the leafs worst dman by a mile last year. If they get any value out of him I would be surprised


He certainly was not. Deployment has a lot to do with it. I would say that he was the best defencemen in our end. What was it... 94% d zone starts. Top line assignments, penalty killing... babysitting. No wonder the guy wants out.

Boy oh boy are you ever going to be disappointed after larsson shows up...

Also, there are a few teams interested in zaitsev. Current ask is a bottom pairing Dman, mid pick and a prospect.
Jun. 16, 2019 at 8:16 p.m.
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He certainly was not. Deployment has a lot to do with it. I would say that he was the best defencemen in our end. What was it... 94% d zone starts. Top line assignments, penalty killing... babysitting. No wonder the guy wants out.

Boy oh boy are you ever going to be disappointed after larsson shows up...

Also, there are a few teams interested in zaitsev. Current ask is a bottom pairing Dman, mid pick and a prospect.


It's not about how he was use. I hated he can't come close to the puck without it exploiding off his stick
Jun. 16, 2019 at 8:18 p.m.
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It's not about how he was use. I hated he can't come close to the puck without it exploiding off his stick


No one is saying you can’t hate the guy, but just don’t be too surprised when you hate Larsson, he was bad this year in Edmonton.
Jun. 16, 2019 at 8:21 p.m.
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No one is saying you can’t hate the guy, but just don’t be too surprised when you hate Larsson, he was bad this year in Edmonton.


Ya but Edmonton can make everyone bad sometimes. Hell I get anxiety just imagining having to play in that **** hole
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Jun. 16, 2019 at 8:25 p.m.
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Ya but Edmonton can make everyone bad sometimes. Hell I get anxiety just imagining having to play in that **** hole


Sounds like something zaitsev would say about Toronto. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him have a very solid season next year.
 
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