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Team: 2019-20 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 21, 2019
Published: Jun. 21, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$11,500,000
3$1,125,000
3$1,125,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,500,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2020 1st round pick (NYI)
  2. 2021 2nd round pick (NYI)
  3. 2022 1st round pick (NYI)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (NYI)
2.
NYI
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (MTL)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (MTL)
3.
VGK
  1. Bellows, Kieffer
  2. Hickey, Thomas
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (NYI)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the NYI
Logo of the NYI
Logo of the NYI
Logo of the NYI
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2022
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the NYI
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$78,065,833$0$937,500$3,434,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the New York Islanders
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
$11,500,000$11,500,000
RW
UFA - 6
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,125,000$1,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,125,000$1,125,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$3,350,000$3,350,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 5
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Islanders
$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the New York Islanders
$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,450,000$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the New York Islanders
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the New York Islanders
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Islanders
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 3

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Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:01 p.m.
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The leafs aren't trading Marner
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:03 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfan14_
The leafs aren't trading Marner


evidently they're not signing him either
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:06 p.m.
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Quoting: linehan10
evidently they're not signing him either


I'm pretty sure they send him for that offer too, they get salary relief and pretty close to a max offersheet offer
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:11 p.m.
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Quoting: jwoods
I'm pretty sure they send him for that offer too, they get salary relief and pretty close to a max offersheet offer


You guys do realize offer sheets aren't happening right? And he wouldn't sign one to play for the islanders. Tavares left, Lee is probably leaving why would he go there.
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:14 p.m.
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Quoting: linehan10
evidently they're not signing him either


Regardless if they don’t sign him they won’t trade him away and take 4 first of any offer sheet he signs. Zaitsev can be traded for a vending machine who cares if he is part of the trade.
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:22 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfan14_
You guys do realize offer sheets aren't happening right? And he wouldn't sign one to play for the islanders. Tavares left, Lee is probably leaving why would he go there.


You realize that isn't an offer sheet right?

And there's quite a few trusted writers saying that both sides are growing frustrated with each other, and Dubas flat out saying that they might not match an offer sheet should one come.

Relax, it's just arm-chair GM. I'm sure no star player could ever leave your team smile
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Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:23 p.m.
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Quoting: TyFrench17
Regardless if they don’t sign him they won’t trade him away and take 4 first of any offer sheet he signs. Zaitsev can be traded for a vending machine who cares if he is part of the trade.

zaitsev could fetch some picks he's not worthless you just don't understand his value. Not entirely your fault, just a little misinformed apparently.
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:27 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfan14_
zaitsev could fetch some picks he's not worthless you just don't understand his value. Not entirely your fault, just a little misinformed apparently.


I am just simply making the point that he isn’t going to eliminate 2 first as part of the Marner return.
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:28 p.m.
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Quoting: hockeyfan14_
zaitsev could fetch some picks he's not worthless you just don't understand his value. Not entirely your fault, just a little misinformed apparently.


He did fetch some picks. Marner's rights and the risk that he doesn't sign isn't worth all of that on his own. Not your fault that you have a bias, just blinded by it apparently. smile
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:33 p.m.
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Quoting: TyFrench17
Regardless if they don’t sign him they won’t trade him away and take 4 first of any offer sheet he signs. Zaitsev can be traded for a vending machine who cares if he is part of the trade.


The problem with this idea is that just because he doesn't sign with Toronto doesn't mean he doesn't take an offer sheet at a value lower than four firsts if he thinks it'll be a better option for him long term. It's quiet possible he wants a short term 10-11 deal and won't commit 8 years anywhere. If he takes 2/10 offer sheet it's two firsts, a second, and a third. So the idea is if it comes down to that, would you just take that for him, or would Dubas rather dump some salary too?
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: jwoods
The problem with this idea is that just because he doesn't sign with Toronto doesn't mean he doesn't take an offer sheet at a value lower than four firsts if he thinks it'll be a better option for him long term. It's quiet possible he wants a short term 10-11 deal and won't commit 8 years anywhere. If he takes 2/10 offer sheet it's two firsts, a second, and a third. So the idea is if it comes down to that, would you just take that for him, or would Dubas rather dump some salary too?


Nothing less but 4 x 1st

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1241170

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Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:37 p.m.
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Quoting: jwoods
The problem with this idea is that just because he doesn't sign with Toronto doesn't mean he doesn't take an offer sheet at a value lower than four firsts if he thinks it'll be a better option for him long term. It's quiet possible he wants a short term 10-11 deal and won't commit 8 years anywhere. If he takes 2/10 offer sheet it's two firsts, a second, and a third. So the idea is if it comes down to that, would you just take that for him, or would Dubas rather dump some salary too?


Anything over 10.59 is 4 firsts. So if he is signing for less then that why wouldn’t the Leafs match?
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Laudan
Nothing less but 4 x 1st

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1241170

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Hopefully that works out for both teams should it happen!
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: TyFrench17
Anything over 10.59 is 4 firsts. So if he is signing for less then that why wouldn’t the Leafs match?


Because if the cap is really 81.5, they have 7 mil in space and need to move quite a few players to keep others around. this is a way for them to clear space, and get a pretty good return for something that could happen for a comparable amount.

very few teams will want kadri
few will want zaitsev
Marleau very well could not waive his deal

Matching 10.5 assumes you know for sure you can clear space for it, and for Kap, and to still field a team as good without Gard on D, Kadri, maybe even Kap if they lose him.
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:50 p.m.
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Quoting: jwoods
Hopefully that works out for both teams should it happen!


The problem i see ( i will go seriously and with logic here, cause like most of those butthurters from your fan base you are dealing with this reasonable ) is Marner was "recruited" for the cause of landing Tavares, then watching how he was hillbillied on Feb and from that reason i think other Teams offer-sheets ( tho i doubt there will be any, if those 1sts would be such a liability to throw around, there would be 7 Offer-sheets each year but they arent, two in last 15 years i think ) would be accepted from him before NYI one....

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Because if the cap is really 81.5, they have 7 mil in space


Horton on LTIR is 13M already. Again...its easier then it looks like....its just about not overpaying the kid
Jun. 21, 2019 at 1:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Laudan
The problem i see ( i will go seriously and with logic here, cause like most of those butthurters from your fan base you are dealing with this reasonable ) is Marner was "recruited" for the cause of landing Tavares, then watching how he was hillbillied on Feb and from that reason i think other Teams offer-sheets ( tho i doubt there will be any, if those 1sts would be such a liability to throw around, there would be 7 Offer-sheets each year but they arent, two in last 15 years i think ) would be accepted from him before NYI one....


I mean he was just at Matt Martin's bachelor party in Vegas for a week and Matt loves the island. He also gets to come to a team that can very well be his team with Barzal going forward, and it's a team that has very passionate fans, more so than a lot of places. Toronto will never be Marners team, especially now. If he does get an 11.5 - 12 year deal in Toronto, he's going to be ridiculed and whenever he doesn't perform, he'll be ostracized.

We'll see what happens. It's all in fun smile
Jun. 21, 2019 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: jwoods
Because if the cap is really 81.5, they have 7 mil in space and need to move quite a few players to keep others around. this is a way for them to clear space, and get a pretty good return for something that could happen for a comparable amount.

very few teams will want kadri
few will want zaitsev
Marleau very well could not waive his deal

Matching 10.5 assumes you know for sure you can clear space for it, and for Kap, and to still field a team as good without Gard on D, Kadri, maybe even Kap if they lose him.


Marleau already said he would waive lol, he wants back to San Jose so we trade him and sweeten the deal to buy him out
 
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