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Can Habs trade for Hall and Vantanen

Created by: K_Hab
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 10, 2019
Published: Jul. 10, 2019
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I keep seeing Vantanen and Hall come up in trade proposals by Devils fans so I'm just feeling it out. What would it take?
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Jul. 10, 2019 at 1:43 p.m.
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Tricky part would be re-signing Hall and Domi next year.
Jul. 10, 2019 at 1:45 p.m.
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That deal isn't worth it to Montreal.
Jul. 10, 2019 at 1:46 p.m.
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This would be a pretty exciting trade...I imagine NJD would ask for Kotkaniemi instead of Drouin.

Would make the picks conditional on Hall resigning.
Jul. 10, 2019 at 1:49 p.m.
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Quoting: LumberJacques
Tricky part would be re-signing Hall and Domi next year.


Petry would have to be traded for sure and 2 of (Tatar, Armia, Leks or Byron). Fleury should be ready for NHL at least to fill a RHD position, we just have to hope we'd have enough depth to fill out the bottom 6.
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Jul. 10, 2019 at 1:55 p.m.
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That deal isn't worth it to Montreal.


Maybe not in the longterm, but this coming season it would definitely make them better.
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Jul. 10, 2019 at 1:58 p.m.
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This would be a pretty exciting trade...I imagine NJD would ask for Kotkaniemi instead of Drouin.

Would make the picks conditional on Hall resigning.


Kotkaniemi instead of Drouin would be a definite deal breaker. Chances are that NJ is going to have a hard time signing Hall and Vantanen anyway, so the Habs are helping them out by getting younger players on cheaper deals plus 2 firsts.
Jul. 10, 2019 at 2:10 p.m.
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Kotkaniemi instead of Drouin would be a definite deal breaker. Chances are that NJ is going to have a hard time signing Hall and Vantanen anyway, so the Habs are helping them out by getting younger players on cheaper deals plus 2 firsts.


I don't really know about the Hall situation - but sounds awfully similar to Tavares last year. I don't think it is for lack of money...Hall wants to play on playoff team. Problem for MTL...if you subtract this many assets from roster, would Hall resign?

Maybe send them Caufield to reunite with Hughes. hushed
Jul. 10, 2019 at 2:12 p.m.
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I don't really know about the Hall situation - but sounds awfully similar to Tavares last year. I don't think it is for lack of money...Hall wants to play on playoff team. Problem for MTL...if you subtract this many assets from roster, would Hall resign?

Maybe send them Caufield to reunite with Hughes. hushed


If they would do it sure, but Drouin currently has much more value than Caufield.

I like your Idea of making the picks conditional upon Hall re-signing. I think the Habs are still a solid team minus those assets.
Jul. 10, 2019 at 2:26 p.m.
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If they would do it sure, but Drouin currently has much more value than Caufield.

I like your Idea of making the picks conditional upon Hall re-signing. I think the Habs are still a solid team minus those assets.


I think there are plenty of assets to deal without subtracting from roster

For Hall....(50% retained in 2019-20) at $3.0 million
Caufield
Brook
2021 1st round pick (conditional on Hall resigning)

For Vatenan...(50% retained in 2019-20) at $2.4 million
Ylonen+Fluery or Poehling
2020 2nd round pick

Would leave enough $$ to resign any RFAs this year and $12-15 million coming off books to resign Hall/Vatenan next year.

More I think of it, Hall to MTL makes tons of sense....
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