Detroit isn't trading Mantha.

Yeah but that's a lot ! Comment on value at least !

Yeah that is a lot to give up for one player but I don't see Yzerman accepting the trade. Mantha is a goal scorer and Detroit has had trouble scoring since Franzen went on to the IR. So if they were to trade Mantha, Caufield would have to be part of the deal. Detroit has the most players over 30 and now that they are finally moving some of them out the its very unlikely they would take Byron.

Big Package for both teams, I don't see either team accepting the trade. We don't need Mantha more than we need those picks/players.

Mantha isn't worth that package but I don't think Detroit gives him up for it either, bit of a weird one

Not even close, Mantha isn't available. And that garbage doesn't get him any ways.

You're right, He's worth more.

We don't need an aging Paul Byron that doesn't fit our rebuild, Detroit has tons of RHD prospects in their pipeline so Brooks isn't a need. And neither is Primeau as we've tons of goale prospects as well. This package is a joke for Mantha. Detroit easily turns this done. We can get much better return for Mantha elsewhere.

a top 5 goalie prospect, a B+ defensive prospect, a top 9 roster player, a lottery pick and a 2nd rounder is an overpayment for Mantha. I get how a fan can think this isn't enough but it easily. The reasons listed in your other post are legit reasons for Detroit to say no but thinking the value isn't adequate or that you can get something better from another team is delusional.

Right now Montreal is in the playoffs, So don't know how that's considered a potential lottery pick but whatever. Like i stated we've no use for Byron already have tons of players like him within our system. As far as Brooks is concerned if we can get Bode Wilde from the Islanders instead for AA perhaps then i'd definitely do that deal. This deal is definitely quantity for quality and with Montreal being a divisional opponent you will need to do far better then this to land Mantha.

You like Mantha a lot ! I do as well . + i forgot to write lottery protected , so i guess it's a BIG no from you ! The trade key is Primeau for me (american goalie) with a LOT of potentiel . I thought u guys we're thin at this position . This is debatable i understand .

Primeau would definitely be sweet don't get me wrong, He'd definitely be our best goalie prospect by far. Larsson and Petruzzelli are probably our goalies of the future right now. Until his injury Mantha was starting to live up to his potential pretty sure Yzerman would be seeking massive overpay for him.

They will fall out once Toronto and Tampa turn up the heat, expect MTL to fall into that 13-15 range. I also think my point went right over your head, it wasn't that the players from MTL aren't useful it was that MANTHA ISNT WORTH THAT PACKAGE - FROM ANY TEAM. Your not going to get 2 top prospects, a roster player PLUS a 1st and 2nd for Mantha.

Especially since you say no quality but yet Primeau is arguably the best goalie prospect in the world right now.

Yeah but if Brooks doesn't pan out (which is possible ) , Byron have only a goal this year and is sign for 3 more years at 3.4 M (which could be harmful contract) +i forgot to write lottery protected , but it could be a 20 place first round pick . Then it's more of a good deal , no ? Consider the fact that Primeau could be a little redondant asset because of Price ..

You don't trade good prospects and picks to get a player that doesn't even fill any holes. Byron is a very good depth piece (our depth is what allows us to beat the giants in the NHL), Brook is one of our very few promising defensive prospects, Primeau is arguably the best goalie prospect in the world and will eventually allow Price to start 50-60 games so he will be well rested for the playoffs. Plus a 1st round pick for a draft we are hosting.

All for a winger who's never posted more than 25 goals in a season and has been fairly injury prone.

You seem to love our prospect a lot , which is good . Mantha as 12 goals this year ... After a quarter of the season . On pace for ... i let you do that one ! Do a little research on him ! He would be our best forward .

Announced Yesterday he will be out indefinitely with a lower-body injury. Can't score goals when you aren't playing.

Also yes, I do love our prospects. That's how you win the cup. Draft and Develop Baby !

Every prospect could not pan out, Mantha could turn into a slug when the Habs acquire him, no one can tell the future but its been shown that trading multiple elite pieces for one guy doesn't work out well.

I'm willing to take that chance, We are trading 4 solid prospects for a guy who's career high goals is 25 and he's never gotten more than 48 points in a season. He's 25 this year and very likely isn't going to get better.

Any relevant thought on the player ? What your assesment on Mantha ? What's his worth ?

This guy is special ! 25 , goal scorer , Quebeker , These's guys are hard to get at those age ! Top 6 : Drouin-Domi-Mantha , Tatar-Danault-Gallagher . I give a lot i understand , but Detroit need an overpayment to give a guy like that in MY opinion .

The assesment on is only 25 (in 67 games) goals is ridiculous . The guy was 23-24 .. A young player ! Mantha is a young stud whether you like it or not . Look at Detroit fans reactions ! Did you see any Detroit fans come here to press the Yes button hard ? 12 goals this year ! Go on Nhl.com !

I honestly don't really see a fit with him on Montreal.

Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Domi-Suzuki
Hudon-Kotkaniemi-Armia
Coustins-Thompson-Weal

You also have to factor in Byron and Drouin who are currently hurt and Poehling down in Laval. There isn't a solid place for him long term here.

I know Mantha hasn't ever really had quality teammates and I'm sure he would do wonders when he does. I imagine he would be a top 6 forward on pretty much every team in the league, but his injuries concern me,

For a team focusing on Youth and Speed, Mantha kind of takes that away. I just don't think Montreal is the team you trade him too.

Very likely not going to get better ?? (great analysis) But Brooks who's got 3-0-3 stats in 20+ AHL games is a stud , Byron 1 goals this year is awesome . Mantha is scum . Did i miss something else ?