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Forum: Armchair-GM2 hours ago

Thread: Getting Robertson a different way

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeonardoNoCardio</b></div><div>What is the answer?</div></div>

They can make a trade it will probably a player they don't want to lose and the return will more than likely be bellow market value. If you think about it JR is currently one of the most valuable players on the Star's given skill and age so keeping him should be the top priority. I wouldn't trade Hintz or Heiskanen but after them pretty much everyone else is fair game. But that's me.

Forum: Armchair-GM3 hours ago

Thread: If Wings dont sign Bertuzzi

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>I know people are gonna hate the return but honestly I don't mind it so much. Its not what I'd really want but I get it</div></div>
Exactly its not the right package but it's not really terrible maybe if it's the only offer. But this definitely has the CapFriendly I have no patience feel to it.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Byrr</b></div><div>Why would Bertuzzi be worth 'much more than that'? He's an expiring contract. You're trading a rental. Hell, he won't even be the best player available at the deadline. There's no chance you get more than this.</div></div>

Bertuzzi is worth a lot more with term so why wouldn't he be traded with an extension in place?

Forum: Armchair-GM3 hours ago

Thread: If Wings dont sign Bertuzzi

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Scooter81</b></div><div>Wings pass. Bertuzzi is worth much more than that and Hague isn’t that good. The pick will most likely be from 11-12-13-14-15. The 3rd is a 3rd and won’t reward Detroit with anything useful. They don’t need Hague either.

Chiarot, Seider, Hronek, Maatta, Oestrele, Walman, Lindstrom, Hagg, Edvinsson.</div></div>

I like the enthusiasm but Maatta, Oestrele, Walman and Hagg are nothing to get excited about and mostly just place holders.

Forum: Armchair-GM3 hours ago

Thread: TDL - Suter Dermott

Maybe at the TDL but I don't see Detroit trading Suter right now and there is a good chance that Veleno gets traded instead of Suter.

Forum: Armchair-GM3 hours ago

Thread: Trying a 2023-24 lineup Again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>busters99</b></div><div>Is Veleno a starter? I thought he was a 13th forward.</div></div>

Currently he is and that's why I said he overvalued Detroit's need for Chytil.

Forum: Armchair-GM3 hours ago

Thread: 2324Berggren Soderblom and Wallinder

I think the plan is to play Edvinsson with Seider. Wallinder was very raw when drafted and since he isn't signed they probably want him to play another year in Sweden so I wouldn't expect to see him until 2024-25 at the earliest. But Detroit also has Johansson which we could see a little of him this season. At this point I just don't think it's wise to trade Vrana as a Wing he has 21 goals in 36 games and last season his G/60 in all situations was 2.0 and that was 2nd to Matthews who had 2.4. Now I doubt he maintains that pace for a full 82 games but it wouldn't be wise to trade him until we see what he can do when healthy for a full season.

Forum: Armchair-GM18 hours ago

Thread: THEYRE STICKING MARNER AS A GODDAMN D

It worked for Burns, Fedorov and Dandenault!

Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago

Thread: Jason rob trade

Detroit declines and it's worse than the JR to Detroit ACGM you posted yesterday.

Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago

Thread: Jim and Steve make a deal

I think if someone offer sheets JR they can trade someone. JR has 125 points in 128 games there are only a couple of players I wouldn't trade to keep JR. If they do have to trade someone it will be below value. That being said I doubt Faksa's cap hit will be enough looking at Dallas's roster Faksa is probably the easiest player to move. So if JR gets offer sheeted then you'd have to think it would be closer to $10M forcing Dallas to make a tough decision.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 hours ago

Thread: Trying a 2023-24 lineup Again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Masonh618</b></div><div>Darn… looks like I undervalued Veleno.</div></div>

Or maybe just overvalued Detroit's need for Chytill.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 hours ago

Thread: Holland goes all in

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>If you've been paying attention you'd know that Holland never goes "all-in", ie. sacrificing the future for the present. He has never traded a 1st for a rental, for example. Neither has the Edmonton Oilers organization in their 40+ year NHL history traded a 1st for a rental. Holland is a builder whose mandate is to create a team that will contend for the entire careers of McDavid and Draisaitl, he's not going to start sending out high end picks and prospects for a short term boost.

He's already had this conversation with Armstrong, and he refused to include Broberg or Holloway in any offer.</div></div>

Paying attention??? This is CapFriendly where getting people to read and comprehend the title of the ACGM is a big enough task.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 hours ago

Thread: Trying a 2023-24 lineup Again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Scooter81</b></div><div>As a Rangers fan, we take that and run.</div></div>

Yeah but there is no reason for Detroit to do this.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 hours ago

Thread: Real cost for the Leafs to get Chychrun and dump Muzzin

Muzzin isn't waiving for the Yotes.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:34 a.m.

Thread: Log jam

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mike</b></div><div>True but his playmaking & ability to wall the puck from opponents overcomes that in coaches/mgmt eyes.. Hanas yes had nice camp & tourney but THIS TIME (PRESASON MATTERS MORE vs the real pros) in real games & bergreen & soderblom have shined in dif aspects early on much more .. IMO hanas is 3rd on that list he's not had his shine moment yet</div></div>

I think the only players we see up on are Edvinsson or possibly Johansson I'd rather play one them instead of Oesterle or Hagg

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsYesterday at 11:33 p.m.

Thread: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FanOfAllTeams</b></div><div>Team is non competitive in the cup race. Got to keep future assets. Personally I wouldn’t have traded for Dach</div></div>

I'd take Dach over Nazar but giving up a 3rd as well I'm not to sure about.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:20 p.m.

Thread: Log jam

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mike</b></div><div>I don't think hanas sees Detroit all year unless we're smoked with injuries.. .think berggren & soderblom are neck & neck right now.. Hanas just numbers game unless he leaps out like few multi goal games..otherwise no dice this yr... More interesting to me is does berggren &/or soderblom make it & take a vets job to start year maybe even forcing a trade</div></div>

Söderblom is a lot closer than just about anyone thought but his skating still needs some work. After watching Hanas in the prospects tournament and in the red and white game I think he is just behind Berggren.

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsYesterday at 11:03 p.m.

Thread: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FanOfAllTeams</b></div><div>No</div></div>

I agree. Guhle may not be as good as Chychrun but he is going to be a good dman and that 1st is probably going to be a top 5 pick.

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsYesterday at 10:38 p.m.

Thread: Who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jimtrott44</b></div><div>As long as the pick is not protected, I think AZ should jump on this.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Coyotes probably want something else instead of Dvorak. After all they had him in the first place and traded him away already. Mind you like jimtrott44 said if the pick is unprotected they'd do it anyhow.</div></div>

But would you do this from Montreal's pov?

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsYesterday at 10:21 p.m.

Thread: Thoughts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hookuhz</b></div><div>If that was the best offer i had before an offer sheet comes in and only get a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Yes.</div></div>

But even if someone offer sheets JR they can trade someone. JR has 125 points in 128 games there are only a couple of players I wouldn't trade to keep JR.

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsYesterday at 8:18 p.m.

Thread: Thoughts

Would you give up Raymond for that return?

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 6:11 p.m.

Thread: Making room for Robertson

Especially with the situation Dallas is currently in I wouldn't expect full value for any trade they make to clear cap. Honestly no one is taking Suter for free let alone giving anything to get to him. He's 37 on a 35+ contract and a flat out pain in the ass as a teammate.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 6:01 p.m.

Thread: trade for Jason robertson

Doesn't make a lot of sense for Detroit either. How about Robertson to Vancouver trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 5:56 p.m.

Thread: Getting Robertson a different way

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeonardoNoCardio</b></div><div>What are they gonna do to become Cap compliant?</div></div>

Do you really not know the answer to that?

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:02 p.m.

Thread: Log jam

But I think we see Berggren and Hanas before Soderblom.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 3:44 p.m.

Thread: opening night roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>Yeah idk why they move suter but for sure sunny is not going to be the #2 center and I can't see berggren being out in a 4th line role.</div></div>

Hronek is going to be in the 2nd pair as long as Seider is playing.

This is all goofy maybe an explanation from Wings1 to help us understand.

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