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Give me top 4 D

Created by: WheEhlers
Initial Creation Date: Jan 27, 2020
Published: Jan 27, 2020 at 9:58
Team: 2020-21 Winnipeg Jets
Team Explanation
Brossoit signing for expansion
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
Samberg, Dylan3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Appleton, Mason3$900,000
Harkins, Jansen3$950,000
Roslovic, Jack3$1,200,000
Niku, Sami3$970,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Brossoit, Laurent3$1,300,000
Chibisov, Andrei3$900,000
Trades
WPG
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
BUF
  1. Roslovic, Jack
  2. Niku, Sami
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Patrik Laine: $1,755,000 (26%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2021
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2022
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$78,009,523$0$282,500$3,490,477

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
WPG
Connor, Kyle
$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 6
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
$6,125,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Laine, Patrik
$4,995,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
$6,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
$8,250,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 4
WPG
Appleton, Mason
$900,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
WPG
Copp, Andrew
$2,280,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
WPG
Lowry, Adam
$2,916,666
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Little, Bryan
$5,291,667
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Perreault, Mathieu
$4,125,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
WPG
Harkins, Jansen
$950,000
LW
RFA - 2
WPG
Chibisov, Andrei
$900,000
RW, LW
UFA
WPG
Gustafsson, David
$817,500
C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
WPG
Morrissey, Joshua
$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 8
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 2
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
$6,166,666
G
UFA - 4
WPG
Heinola, Ville
$894,167
LD
RFA - 3
WPG
Pionk, Neal
$3,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
WPG
Brossoit, Laurent
$1,300,000
G
UFA - 1
WPG
Samberg, Dylan
$925,000
LD
RFA - 3
WPG
Poolman, Tucker
$775,000
RD
UFA - 1
WPG
Dahlström, Carl
$850,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
WPG
Byfuglien, Dustin
$7,600,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Laine, P.
Scheifele, M.
Wheeler, B.
Ristolainen, R.
Connor, K.
Power Play 2
Copp, A.
Perreault, M.
Ehlers, N.
Morrissey, J.
Little, B.
Penalty Kill 1
Lowry, A.
Copp, A.
Morrissey, J.
Appleton, M.
Penalty Kill 2
Perreault, M.
Wheeler, B.
Laine, P.
Ristolainen, R.

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Jan 27, 2020 at 10:01
#1
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Buffalo should take it and run.
Jan 27, 2020 at 10:04
#2
The CEO of reported
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Gonna need to give up a lot more
I don’t even know what it’d be
Jan 27, 2020 at 10:09
#3
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No D back . The D pipeline is full. Who is top forward prospect ?
Jan 27, 2020 at 10:52
#4
MisstheWhalers
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Not even worth it, you'd basically have Risto for 2 seasons and then you're giving him a raise to the point that he's no longer worth having cause he's not worth any more then what he's presently making or you have him for one season and then you're looking at dealing him to recoup assets in the second season cause he'll be a UFA and will walk, he's just not worth acquiring.

I think the Jets are kind of screwed unless some of their prospects like Heinola and Samberg can come in and contribute right away and not need any AHL time, seriously it might be time to see if Wheeler wants to go.
Jan 27, 2020 at 11:14
#5
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Not even worth it, you'd basically have Risto for 2 seasons and then you're giving him a raise to the point that he's no longer worth having cause he's not worth any more then what he's presently making or you have him for one season and then you're looking at dealing him to recoup assets in the second season cause he'll be a UFA and will walk, he's just not worth acquiring.

I think the Jets are kind of screwed unless some of their prospects like Heinola and Samberg can come in and contribute right away and not need any AHL time, seriously it might be time to see if Wheeler wants to go.


What team wants Wheelers contract?
Jan 27, 2020 at 11:34
#6
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Hawksince71
What team wants Wheelers contract?


I have no idea, the Jets would obviously have to take money back to make it work but he's still productive,
gotta think there'd be some interested teams.
Jan 27, 2020 at 11:57
#7
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I have no idea, the Jets would obviously have to take money back to make it work but he's still productive,
gotta think there'd be some interested teams.


The intangible in this is Wheeler is the face of the organization. Would Sharks being having the year they are having if Pavelski was still there? Truly miss his leadership.
Moving Wheeler’s contract would bring the Jets another contract back. It doesn’t necessarily make the club better.
Jan 27, 2020 at 12:01
#8
BiscuitBakesHotTaeks
Joined: Apr 2018
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Make the 2nd conditional to a 1st if WPG makes the conf finals or something crazy and I think it’s fair
Jan 27, 2020 at 12:03
#9
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Hawksince71
The intangible in this is Wheeler is the face of the organization. Would Sharks being having the year they are having if Pavelski was still there? Truly miss his leadership.
Moving Wheeler’s contract would bring the Jets another contract back. It doesn’t necessarily make the club better.


Maybe the Sharks miss Pavelsk that much or maybe they're an old team, have a few conflicting personalities in the room and haven't gotten good goaltending?

Perhaps not but repeatedly doing what they've been doing is getting them nowhere and it's gotta be wearing thin on Wheeler, he'd probably welcome a trade to a contender at this point, he's 34, time is ticking away and the Jets don't look like they'll be winning a cup this year or next, how long does he want to hang around to see if this team can get back to contender status.
Jan 27, 2020 at 1:22
#10
Thread Starter
Need sum D
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Quoting: Swagmaster
No D back . The D pipeline is full. Who is top forward prospect ?


Probably Vesalainen or Luoto. I hear that Buffalo is looking for offense so Roslo and an offensive dman like Niku would be fair. Maybe swap out Niku for Vesa then?
Jan 27, 2020 at 1:25
#11
Joined: Aug 2019
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Quoting: WheEhlers
Probably Vesalainen or Luoto. I hear that Buffalo is looking for offense so Roslo and an offensive dman like Niku would be fair. Maybe swap out Niku for Vesa then?


They have offensive D here and developing . Need offensive forwards
Jan 29, 2020 at 11:23
#12
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Maybe the Sharks miss Pavelsk that much or maybe they're an old team, have a few conflicting personalities in the room and haven't gotten good goaltending?

Perhaps not but repeatedly doing what they've been doing is getting them nowhere and it's gotta be wearing thin on Wheeler, he'd probably welcome a trade to a contender at this point, he's 34, time is ticking away and the Jets don't look like they'll be winning a cup this year or next, how long does he want to hang around to see if this team can get back to contender status.


No contender will have the cap space to acquire Wheeler. No team will pay for that term. A deal will like happen in two seasons when Wheeler is near the end of the contract. Wheeler can still play. Maybe moved to the 2nd line. What hurts Winnipeg most, I think is Little’s contract.
Jan 29, 2020 at 12:13
#13
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Hawksince71
No contender will have the cap space to acquire Wheeler. No team will pay for that term. A deal will like happen in two seasons when Wheeler is near the end of the contract. Wheeler can still play. Maybe moved to the 2nd line. What hurts Winnipeg most, I think is Little’s contract.


A contender could take him, the Jets would just have to take some money back to make it work.
He is playing on the 2nd line now and I never said he couldn't play just that if he wants a cup it isn't happening with the Jets and the Jets need an overhaul that I doubt he'll want to be a part of.

Little's contract is fine for now, he produces in line with his paycheck and they've missed him big time this season, in time it may become an issue but it isn't right now or next season. The Jets issue right now is Little being out, Buff's absence and the $7M combined that's being paid to Lowry and Perreault who are producing at a 4th line rate, if those two were putting up points like an average 3rd line does the Jets would be in a better position right now, they need to look at moving those two at the TDL if possible, they both need to go as part of the overhaul that needs to happen.
Jan 30, 2020 at 1:10
#14
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
A contender could take him, the Jets would just have to take some money back to make it work.
He is playing on the 2nd line now and I never said he couldn't play just that if he wants a cup it isn't happening with the Jets and the Jets need an overhaul that I doubt he'll want to be a part of.

Little's contract is fine for now, he produces in line with his paycheck and they've missed him big time this season, in time it may become an issue but it isn't right now or next season. The Jets issue right now is Little being out, Buff's absence and the $7M combined that's being paid to Lowry and Perreault who are producing at a 4th line rate, if those two were putting up points like an average 3rd line does the Jets would be in a better position right now, they need to look at moving those two at the TDL if possible, they both need to go as part of the overhaul that needs to happen.


I agree with you that the Jets would have to take money back to move Wheeler, however I can’t see how this would improve the franchise. In such a circumstances, it is toxic contract coming back. Wheeler in my opinion, in more than point producer.

A quick view of Little’s stats, I didn’t realize he was able to stay healthy the past two seasons. His history of injury is alarming. Four years remaining on his contract, at age 32, it should be expected his availability and production will decline.

I am sure that the Jets’ record would be better if they were healthy. Considering what Cheveldayoff did quickly to fix the back end in October, them team has played exceptionally well. He has been criticized for not replacing the free agents who left, but his situation last summer was difficult. I think he couldn’t commit money to the blue-line until the RFA’s were resolved. With so many high profiled ELC expiring last season, it was a game of chicken determining market value of these players. No GM wanted overpay their players.
Buff not reporting to camp magnified the Jets crisis on the blue. I praise Cheveldayoff for not hitting the panic button and using the cap recklessly to fill spaces.

It may not be a ideal year, for the Jets but there future is bright.
Jan 30, 2020 at 1:26
#15
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Hawksince71
I agree with you that the Jets would have to take money back to move Wheeler, however I can’t see how this would improve the franchise. In such a circumstances, it is toxic contract coming back. Wheeler in my opinion, in more than point producer.

A quick view of Little’s stats, I didn’t realize he was able to stay healthy the past two seasons. His history of injury is alarming. Four years remaining on his contract, at age 32, it should be expected his availability and production will decline.

I am sure that the Jets’ record would be better if they were healthy. Considering what Cheveldayoff did quickly to fix the back end in October, them team has played exceptionally well. He has been criticized for not replacing the free agents who left, but his situation last summer was difficult. I think he couldn’t commit money to the blue-line until the RFA’s were resolved. With so many high profiled ELC expiring last season, it was a game of chicken determining market value of these players. No GM wanted overpay their players.
Buff not reporting to camp magnified the Jets crisis on the blue. I praise Cheveldayoff for not hitting the panic button and using the cap recklessly to fill spaces.

It may not be a ideal year, for the Jets but there future is bright.


I don't necessarily disagree with anything you said but I think this team needs a bigger overhaul then anyone else thinks it does, no minor tweaks are gonna fix this and I just can't see this team being remotely close to a contender in the next couple seasons which is why I think moving Wheeler is best for both him and the organization.
 
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