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Created by: total_knut
Team: 2019-20 Vegas Golden Knights
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 11, 2020
Published: Feb. 11, 2020
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LOL come on, you gotta admit that's a great title right there
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$76,820,000$0$1,720,000$4,680,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
C
UFA - 8
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$725,000$725,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,775,000$2,775,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
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$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000 (Performance Bonus$800,000$800K)
RD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 11, 2020 at 11:03 a.m.
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Good title bad trade
Feb. 11, 2020 at 11:22 a.m.
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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
Good title bad trade


Kelly and Joe can figure out any imbalances with draft picks....I just wanted to include the two main principles.

I had heard that there was a bit of a rift with Joe and Nikita back in the day. Not sure if that was true and if it was, not sure what it was about. But I would have to assume contract. If so, perhaps Joe doesn't want to deal with NZ again this summer.
Feb. 11, 2020 at 11:24 a.m.
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Quoting: total_knut
Kelly and Joe can figure out any imbalances with draft picks....I just wanted to include the two main principles.

I had heard that there was a bit of a rift with Joe and Nikita back in the day. Not sure if that was true and if it was, not sure what it was about. But I would have to assume contract. If so, perhaps Joe doesn't want to deal with NZ again this summer.


Timmins could fill Z's spot right now, but I think they'd be better off trading Z in the summer
Feb. 11, 2020 at 11:29 a.m.
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Quoting: total_knut
Kelly and Joe can figure out any imbalances with draft picks....I just wanted to include the two main principles.

I had heard that there was a bit of a rift with Joe and Nikita back in the day. Not sure if that was true and if it was, not sure what it was about. But I would have to assume contract. If so, perhaps Joe doesn't want to deal with NZ again this summer.


Well i assume it was like any free agent and GM, player wants more money and Gm doesn't want to give more. I don't think there was any real issues. He's playing for a longer contract right now but i don't see us trading him for a lower level center. Eakins and compher play the same game, we don't really need another one.
Feb. 11, 2020 at 11:29 a.m.
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I think this is a big downgrade in value for Colorado. Even if there is some bad blood between Zadorov and management you could get a better return than Eakin.
Feb. 11, 2020 at 11:32 a.m.
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Quoting: earl08
Timmins could fill Z's spot right now, but I think they'd be better off trading Z in the summer


That is not true at all, they play completely different games and styles. We lose the majority of our physical game by moving zads, and timmins will be over shadowed by makar. I think timmins is more of a trade piece at this time, but he also won't go for a depth center.
Feb. 11, 2020 at 11:45 a.m.
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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
That is not true at all, they play completely different games and styles. We lose the majority of our physical game by moving zads, and timmins will be over shadowed by makar. I think timmins is more of a trade piece at this time, but he also won't go for a depth center.


With Z you take the good with the bad, like that turnover behind the net for an easy wraparound goal. I can't blame Sakic for wanting players with more consistency. The writing is on the wall, as Graves, Timmins, and Byram will be pushing Z out of Denver.
Feb. 11, 2020 at 12:04 p.m.
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Quoting: earl08
With Z you take the good with the bad, like that turnover behind the net for an easy wraparound goal. I can't blame Sakic for wanting players with more consistency. The writing is on the wall, as Graves, Timmins, and Byram will be pushing Z out of Denver.


Yeah Zads has ups and downs, so does every player. Yeah he turned it over in front of the net, but i literally just watched girard, landy and graves do the same thing the past 3 games. Zads also was the reason for the turn over that led to kadri's goal against Columbus to tie it.
If you look at the D we have coming up we will have 0 physicality on our team with zads and cole gone. That is not what you want in playoffs at all.
I think it's going to be timmins to be the one who is traded. Makar and girard already brings the offense, graves has played excellent this season. Byram is going to be a solid 2 way player. Johnson and Zads will be used for shutdown pieces.
Feb. 11, 2020 at 12:13 p.m.
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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
Yeah Zads has ups and downs, so does every player. Yeah he turned it over in front of the net, but i literally just watched girard, landy and graves do the same thing the past 3 games. Zads also was the reason for the turn over that led to kadri's goal against Columbus to tie it.
If you look at the D we have coming up we will have 0 physicality on our team with zads and cole gone. That is not what you want in playoffs at all.
I think it's going to be timmins to be the one who is traded. Makar and girard already brings the offense, graves has played excellent this season. Byram is going to be a solid 2 way player. Johnson and Zads will be used for shutdown pieces.


There are plenty of players who can bring the pain, but won't command $4M+ a year. Avs should do what CGY did and grab a Zak Rinaldo scrubbo
Feb. 11, 2020 at 12:32 p.m.
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Quoting: earl08
There are plenty of players who can bring the pain, but won't command $4M+ a year. Avs should do what CGY did and grab a Zak Rinaldo scrubbo


Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
Yeah Zads has ups and downs, so does every player. Yeah he turned it over in front of the net, but i literally just watched girard, landy and graves do the same thing the past 3 games. Zads also was the reason for the turn over that led to kadri's goal against Columbus to tie it.
If you look at the D we have coming up we will have 0 physicality on our team with zads and cole gone. That is not what you want in playoffs at all.
I think it's going to be timmins to be the one who is traded. Makar and girard already brings the offense, graves has played excellent this season. Byram is going to be a solid 2 way player. Johnson and Zads will be used for shutdown pieces.


I noticed neither of you mentioned Cal Foote. What's his development been like and he is expendable given your D depth?
Feb. 11, 2020 at 12:42 p.m.
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I noticed neither of you mentioned Cal Foote. What's his development been like and he is expendable given your D depth?


I think he's on tampa
Feb. 11, 2020 at 12:44 p.m.
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There are plenty of players who can bring the pain, but won't command $4M+ a year. Avs should do what CGY did and grab a Zak Rinaldo scrubbo


Yeah lets do what the team did that we just wiped the floor with last year in playoffs. All players like that do is take dumb penalties and don't produce. Zads is fine, and 4 mil for him is a solid contract.
Feb. 11, 2020 at 12:44 p.m.
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I think he's on tampa


My mistake....I'm having a separate email conversation with some friends and mixed up the details. =)
Feb. 11, 2020 at 12:50 p.m.
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Yeah lets do what the team did that we just wiped the floor with last year in playoffs. All players like that do is take dumb penalties and don't produce. Zads is fine, and 4 mil for him is a solid contract.


CGY got Lucic and Rinaldo specifically to counteract Zadorov. Z smashed up Tkachuk; thats why he was a ghost in the series. I think CGY makes the WC final.

CGY did the smart thing by adding toughness at F, not on D. If there's fighting or big PIMs being handed out, the team won't miss a F as much as a D.
 
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