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Flyers Fans - Would You Do This

Created by: BurnEmUp

Team: 2020-21 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 25, 2020

Published: Jul. 26, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Basically valuing Johnny at two 1st round picks and a 2nd roughly.

Flames 2nd round pick = JVR retained
Johnny = Farabee, Healthy/Good Patrick, 2nd OR....
Johnny = Farabee, Hurt/Bad Patrick, 1st

If I'm not mistaken, Flyers top 9 would be:

Giroux - Couturier - Voracek
Johnny - Hayes - Konecny
Lindblom - Frost - XXXXX

Full roster for the Flames below with over $5,000,000 cap left to upgrade.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Mangiapane, Andrew	3	$2,250,000
Patrick, Nolan	1	$874,125
Gawdin, Glenn	1	$787,500
Kylington, Oliver	1	$787,500

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Hall, Taylor	7	$7,750,000
Rinaldo, Zac	1	$750,000
Stone, Michael	1	$750,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Back up, Goalie		1	$1,500,000

Trades

CGY

Farabee, Joel
Patrick, Nolan [RFA Rights]
van Riemsdyk, James ($1,000,000 retained)
2021 1st round pick (PHI)

Additional Details:

2021 1st is conditional - if Patrick plays 50+ games or scores 40+ points in the 2020/21 season the pick downgrades to a 2021 2nd round pick.

If it's a shortened season the games played number above converts to percentage. (Eg. 50/82 = 61% or more of the Flames games)

PHI

Gaudreau, Johnny
2021 2nd round pick (CGY)

CGY

2021 2nd round pick (DAL)

DAL

van Riemsdyk, James ($1,000,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Retained another $1,000,000 and flipped to a team looking for a top 6 LW (Dallas, Minny, etc...)

Buyouts

Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
Michael Stone: $1,166,667

Retained Salary Transactions

James van Riemsdyk: $1,000,000 (14.29%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$67,675,791	$0	$1,382,500	$13,824,209

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hall, Taylor $7,750,000$7,750,000 LW UFA - 1	Monahan, Sean $6,375,000$6,375,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Lindholm, Elias $4,850,000$4,850,000 C, RW UFA - 4
Mangiapane, Andrew $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Backlund, Mikael $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NTC UFA - 4	Tkachuk, Matthew $7,000,000$7,000,000 RW UFA - 2
Farabee, Joel $925,000$925,000 ($500,000$500K) LW, RW UFA - 2	Patrick, Nolan $874,125$874,125 C, RW UFA - 1	Bennett, Sam $2,550,000$2,550,000 C UFA - 1
Lucic, Milan $5,250,000$5,250,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 3	Ryan, Derek $3,125,000$3,125,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Dubé, Dillon $778,333$778,333 ($32,500$32K) LW, RW, C RFA - 1
	Rinaldo, Zac $750,000$750,000 LW UFA - 1	Gawdin, Glenn $787,500$787,500 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Giordano, Mark $3,375,000$3,375,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersson, Rasmus $4,550,000$4,550,000 RD UFA - 6	Rittich, David $1,375,000$1,375,000 G UFA - 1
Hanifin, Noah $1,237,500$1,237,500 LD UFA - 4	Stone, Michael $750,000$750,000 RD UFA - 1
Välimäki, Juuso $894,166$894,166 ($425,000$425K) LD RFA - 1	Kylington, Oliver $787,500$787,500 LD/RD UFA - 1	Back up, Goalie $1,500,000$1,500,000
Mackey, Connor $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) LD UFA - 1

Jul. 26, 2020 at 12:23 a.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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They take that and run, Flames get fleeced here

Jul. 26, 2020 at 12:25 a.m.

deleted_12392840

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Regardless what Flyers fans think......Calgary doesn’t do this anyway.

Jul. 26, 2020 at 12:33 a.m.

flamesfan

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Edited Jul. 26, 2020 at 12:52 a.m.

There’s no way the flames do that, this is a bad trade for Calgary. Flyers 10000000% accept

Jul. 26, 2020 at 1:16 a.m.

BurnEmUp

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Yeah Baby

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Lol so I'm not a homer all the time then?

Would love a Flyers fan or two to chime in.

Jul. 26, 2020 at 1:17 a.m.

BurnEmUp

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Yeah Baby

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

They take that and run, Flames get fleeced here

Quoting: flamesfan

There’s no way the flames do that, this is a bad trade for Calgary. Flyers 10000000% accept

If you change Patrick to Frost is this better for Calgary?

You guys know how good Farabee is right?

Jul. 26, 2020 at 1:21 a.m.

flamesfan

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Quoting: BurnEmUp

If you change Patrick to Frost is this better for Calgary?

You guys know how good Farabee is right?

The only way flyers are getting gaudreau is if they give up frost and konecny. Flyers fans will think that an overpay but that’s what it would cost

Jul. 26, 2020 at 1:26 a.m.

BurnEmUp

Thread Starter

Yeah Baby

Joined: May 2015

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Quoting: flamesfan

The only way flyers are getting gaudreau is if they give up frost and konecny. Flyers fans will think that an overpay but that’s what it would cost

Yeah you're right they won't like that at all. I would love it haha

The other way they might get him is to wait two years and sign him when he's UFA

Jul. 26, 2020 at 1:34 a.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: BurnEmUp

If you change Patrick to Frost is this better for Calgary?

You guys know how good Farabee is right?

Farabee is fine but he's still a mid 6 guy, Patrick may never play again, JVR is a cap dump here and won't fetch a 2nd in a flip and the first should be 2020 no conditions

Jul. 26, 2020 at 1:45 a.m.

BurnEmUp

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Yeah Baby

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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy

Farabee is fine but he's still a mid 6 guy, Patrick may never play again, JVR is a cap dump here and won't fetch a 2nd in a flip and the first should be 2020 no conditions

Technically cant be a 2020 1st because if they did trade Gaudreau it likely wouldn't be until they've already signed Hall. Unless they've secured his rights before the draft the timing doesnt work.

Patrick's injury woes is why I put the condition on the 1st, but yeah its certainly risky. Flames would have to dig deep on him first and be supremely confident that he'd play.

JVR is still potting 20+ goals and 45+ points yearly. At $5 million AAV I would think he'd return a 2nd rounder easily, even with a flat cap. Jason Zucker just returned Galchenyuk, Calen Addison and a conditional 1st for a comparable.

Jul. 26, 2020 at 2:11 a.m.

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Ledge_And_Dairy

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Quoting: BurnEmUp

You should keep in mind that Flames owners have never once retained a contract and probably never will

BurnEmUp liked this.

Jul. 26, 2020 at 7:51 a.m.

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ALitteral

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Still no interested in Gaudreau. He's great and it would be cool to add scoring but our team is deep upfront already. I'm not interested in trading Farabee, but I get those are the types of players you have to include to get players of this quality back. The Flyers just took a step forward this year and don't need to blow it up for a reset. We are legitimately a RHD and a backup goalie away from true contender... maybe a 3RW depending on Patrick/Frost.

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