I like the Edmonton trade and Leon will turn into a number 1 centre over time the way the guy passed the puck and protects it reminds me a lot of Joe Thornton

I think the precedent of the Seth Jones for Ryan Johannsen and Hall for Larsson would suggest that a straight up Trouba for Draisaitl would be enough w/o Burmi, plus Oilers need a dman more than Jets need another young forward. Might need something else coming Jets way.
I like Faulk but ... A bit pricey for my money.
No thanks on Hartnell!

You Hartnell haters are funny! Guy gets 50 points a year and basically plays on 2nd and 3rd lines all year. Sure he is older but he is still very productive. Plus you are over-valuing Trouba. I would never move Draisaitl for him.

Carolina trade: With players Jordan Staal, Viktor Rask, Teuvo Teravainen, Elias Lindholm, Andrej Nestrasil, Jacob Slavin, Noah Hanifin, Brett Pesce, and Ron Hainsey, the Hurricanes' deepest positions are Center and Defenseman. They would not have nearly enough interest in a low-end 1C in Little (which, to be clear, means that he's on the lower end of legit 1Cs, not that he's a low-end Center playing on the 1st line) to trade Faulk (a high-end #1 D-man, the face of their franchise, and the most likely candidate to be their next captain) for Little and Enstrom (an aging 2nd pair D-man with a ghastly contract). Maybe the Jets could swing something involving Dano + Enstrom + [?] for Slavin.

Edmonton trade: If the Carolina trade happened, the Edmonton trade would make sense. I just don't think the Carolina trade would ever happen, unless Ron Francis suffers some sort of mental breakdown.

Columbus trade: This past season, Hartnell was only willing to waive his NMC for a handful of teams, and it was reported that Winnipeg (who play in a city with very harsh weather, have an especially taxing travel schedule, and drafted 2nd Overall in 2016) were one of the least-desired destinations around the NHL; I don't think Hartnell would waive his NMC to go to Winnipeg. Even if he would, the Blue Jackets would not trade him for a 22-year-old Bottom 6 C.

Montreal trade: Pretty good; I think the picks given up by Montreal are a little much, though. Maybe a 3rd and a 4th, or just a 2nd would be more appropriate.

I agree that, if Trouba for Draisaitl was going to work, it would work without Burmistrov, don't think it's wise to use the Hall-Larsson trade as a precedent. It's important to remember that the Oilers are not nearly as desperate for a young RHD as they were before they traded for Larsson, and that in this hypothetical, the Jets are also trading away Bryan Little and have acquired Justin Faulk (which would result in them having even less need for Trouba and much more need for a Center, although I think Perreault would suffice as a 2C), so the difference in leverage is not nearly so big as you describe. Crucially, Leon Draisaitl is probably worth more than Jacob Trouba right now; whereas Trouba is a 22-year-old who really struggled with his game last year and has become something of an uncertain commodity, Draisaitl is a 20-year-old who was scoring a point-per-game for half of last season. If anything, this trade favors Winnipeg.



I don't see how that's the case. The propose trade is a 28-year-old low-end 1C plus a 31-year-old Top 4 D-man (whose Cap hit and NMC reduce his trade value to almost zero, especially with the Expansion draft coming up) for a 24-year-old high-end #1 D-man on a fantastic contract.



I understand that the Jets don't really have a need for him, but if they got him at that price, I'd be jumping for joy. Hartnell may be getting up there in age, but he's been over 1.99 5v5 P/60 in each of the last two years, and in 5 of the last 6 seasons where he played at least 1000 5v5 minutes. That's really good production.

Am I the only one that doesn't think the jets are any better with all these trades? Like I rather have trouba and enstrom than faulk so the defense is way worse. The offense isn't really any better.

Not hating at all, just don't think he fits in Winnipeg.

I'll stand by the Jones for Johannsen precedent and Trouba is better than Larsson and Hall is equal to or better than Draisaitl so... I am not criticizing any of these players they are all very good.

Show me one shred of evidence that says Trouba wants out of Winnipeg that is not an opinion piece written by some out of touch hack in Toronto.

Hartnell is a decent middle 6 guy he just impedes the progression of some of winnipegs young forwards and this is the obvious direction true North is headed.

Bryan Little and Enstrom are both very underrated although I don't feel that this particular deal would interest Carolina but they would be a better team for it!