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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 24, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.
Thread: If jets trade Hellebuyck
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tintin</b></div><div>I probably shouldn't have implied there are multiple perfect comparables. You're right that goalies of this caliber are rarely traded.

The best recent one I can really think of is that of Kuemper back in 2021. Pending UFA, easily a top 10 goalie at the time. 1st + 3rd + B level prospect.
Then there's Ryan Miller from the 2014 TDL. Pending UFA playing at the height of his powers going from Buffalo to the Blues. 1st + 3rd + Halak (lesser starter mainly for salary purposes) + B level prospect.

Going by these two comps, a futures laden Hellebuyck to the Devils deal should probably look something like 1st + 3rd + Vanecek + Graeme Clarke (or Nolan Foote)...

At this point in time I'd probably rank Hellebuyck as the 8th best goalie in the NHL behind:
1. Saros
2. Shesterkin
3. Sorokin
4. Vasilievsky
5.Gustavsson
6. Oettinger
7. Ullmark</div></div>

Madness!
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.
Thread: Scheifele at the deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nmstars31</b></div><div>I guess it is because of people like you. ACGM is about discussing with a community whether certain moves would work and/or be viable. Obviously many of these moves have stated or implied circumstances, such as Winnipeg being sellers in this case. Personally I think it’s reasonable that they would be sellers and moving Scheif as they don’t have a sure fire playoff squad and he’s a UFA with little intentions to resign. Feel free to argue these points to your hearts content, but being condescending and rude while only using points that have merit by rejecting the implied premise of the post just makes you come across as a sad and lonely man with unresolved problems you’re projecting onto everyone here.</div></div>

Ohhhh! you dont know what contrived means, haha. pound salt skid mark. go back and read the conversation. all the best
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.
Thread: Scheifele at the deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>Slight issue, your team stinks.

They'll be a meek middle team and maybe just make it in, then lose in the first round again. If that's how Winnipeg wants to play their cards, and if that's how you're coping with the current state of your team, be my guest. But this return certainly isn't pennies on the dollar.

Also, sure, resign him if you want. Dude has a terrible attitude when it comes to losing and has never really won anything in his career. Scheif is overrated as hell. Not to mention he's never been that good of a playoff performer.

EDIT: Also making a trade and getting a return for a player who is most definitely NOT staying with your team is much better than holding onto them just to earn a couple extra bucks then lose in the first round. I actually have no idea where that logic even comes from man.</div></div>

Gosh, i guess you are incapable of grasping the concept. Not surprised. Best of luck out there, keep it classy
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 19, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.
Thread: Scheifele at the deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ennis</b></div><div>More value in keeping him? You mean when he walks to FA like everyone else will? I mean… if that’s your strategy…</div></div>

My dude, its quite rudimentary actually. Allow me to enlighten you, its in fact quite common. Lets say the Jets are comfortably third or even second in the central at the trade deadline and the package offered here is the absolute best offer they receive (it for sure wont be though). If they were to trade away the players, in this case Scheifele and Hellebuyck for pennies on the dollar as suggested here, they would undoubtedly falter and likely miss the playoffs losing a chance at a playoff run and millions of dollars in revenue for the franchise. I have heard this referred to as 'internal rentals'. This is a far better "strategy" then making a trade which does absolutely nothing positive for the team anytime soon! The Vegas 1st rounder will be a late first that even if it hits wont contribute for 3-5 years. SO yes, there is greater value to the franchise and the city of Winnipeg to hold onto these assets and allow them to become Unrestricted Free agents which they have both earned that opportunity. With that the Jets now have 12.3 million in extra cap space. or they resign one or both because the market is tepid and there will be A LOT of UFA's next off season.