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Team: 2016-17 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 7, 2016
Published: Sep. 7, 2016
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2$4,500,000
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$73,000,000$68,399,167$0$4,407,500$4,600,833

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
C, RW, LW
UFA - 3
$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
UFA - 8
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$675,000$675K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW
UFA - 3
$4,700,000$4,700,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$5,600,000$5,600,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$2,125,000$2,125,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
$4,350,000$4,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$1,125,000$1,125,000
C
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,550,000$1,550,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
$1,200,000$1,200,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,750,000$5,750,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
$3,900,000$3,900,000
G
UFA - 1
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
$7,600,000$7,600,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
$667,500$667,500 (Performance Bonus$232,500$232K)
G
UFA - 1
$850,000$850,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$887,500$887,500
RD
UFA - 1
$1,150,000$1,150,000
G
UFA - 2
$2,625,000$2,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$600,000$600,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Sep. 7, 2016 at 6:04 p.m.
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If Trouba was going to sign for that price he would have already done so.
Sep. 7, 2016 at 6:09 p.m.
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Don't see Trouba signing for any thing less then $5.5 million per, Short or long term.
Sep. 7, 2016 at 6:11 p.m.
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No Dano?
Sep. 7, 2016 at 7:22 p.m.
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Please explain moving Scheifele away from Wheeler???? Please.
Sep. 7, 2016 at 7:36 p.m.
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Quoting: ColumbusKyle
No Dano?

Dano is in tough competition
Jets top 6 Ehlers, Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Little, Stafford
3rd line: Matthias, Perreault, ???? ( Dano, Petan, Armia, Burmistrov, Connor)
4th line: ????, Lowry, ??? ( Thorburn, Peluso, Copp, Howden, Tanev, Lipon, Lemieux)
Sep. 7, 2016 at 7:43 p.m.
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Quoting: BoomaKaZooma
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No Dano?

Dano is in tough competition
Jets top 6 Ehlers, Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Little, Stafford
3rd line: Matthias, Perreault, ???? ( Dano, Petan, Armia, Burmistrov, Connor)
4th line: ????, Lowry, ??? ( Thorburn, Peluso, Copp, Howden, Tanev, Lipon, Lemieux)


Matthias is much better suited on the 4th line. Him and Stafford would not compliment each other. Wheeler actually performs better with little plus gives your top 6 more balance. Any not jets fans insight?
Sep. 7, 2016 at 7:50 p.m.
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Watched a lot of buffalo games in the past. Stafford scores well but needs linemates that carry play so Perrault is a good choice plus someone like dano who seems to be good at that. I would have burmistrov play 4th line center. He's a much better center man and his penalty killing would be needed with this club than maybe Matthias and armia or petan with him. If Connor is playing in the top 6 he with need to vets to shelter him so wheeler and either little or scheifele. And have ehlers with Laine and the other center.
Sep. 7, 2016 at 7:54 p.m.
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I really don't like Lowry's game. Copp could play in the ahl to see if he can find some offense in his game. Howden could be a good fit in the 4th line also. And for the jets bottom pairing dmen only 3 opinions that are actually NHL defensemen postma, chiarot or take a chance on Morrissey (I think he is ready)
Sep. 7, 2016 at 8:37 p.m.
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No Dano?

Dano is in tough competition
Jets top 6 Ehlers, Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Little, Stafford
3rd line: Matthias, Perreault, ???? ( Dano, Petan, Armia, Burmistrov, Connor)
4th line: ????, Lowry, ??? ( Thorburn, Peluso, Copp, Howden, Tanev, Lipon, Lemieux)


Matthias is much better suited on the 4th line. Him and Stafford would not compliment each other. Wheeler actually performs better with little plus gives your top 6 more balance. Any not jets fans insight?


I guess I would beg to differ as data is from 2016 season.
http://m.imgur.com/OzWzAmy?r
Don't remember Little Wheeler performing this well. Most of the time together was also with Ladd.

Little will also bring more structure to Laine's first season. There will be a learning curve, likely with the length of the season.

As for 3rd line. Jets have enough depth for a third scoring line. specialists on PK insert here.
4th line high energy. Mattais bang and crash at 2.125M...would think organization would not be paying a 4th liner that much. Therefore players stated.
Guess we differ on eye test, stats, and reading between the lines...though it has been a long enough wait that the organization has had this many options at depth roles. How sweet it is.
Sep. 7, 2016 at 9:25 p.m.
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Quoting: BoomaKaZooma
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No Dano?

Dano is in tough competition
Jets top 6 Ehlers, Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Little, Stafford
3rd line: Matthias, Perreault, ???? ( Dano, Petan, Armia, Burmistrov, Connor)
4th line: ????, Lowry, ??? ( Thorburn, Peluso, Copp, Howden, Tanev, Lipon, Lemieux)


Matthias is much better suited on the 4th line. Him and Stafford would not compliment each other. Wheeler actually performs better with little plus gives your top 6 more balance. Any not jets fans insight?


I guess I would beg to differ as data is from 2016 season.
http://m.imgur.com/OzWzAmy?r
Don't remember Little Wheeler performing this well. Most of the time together was also with Ladd.

Little will also bring more structure to Laine's first season. There will be a learning curve, likely with the length of the season.

As for 3rd line. Jets have enough depth for a third scoring line. specialists on PK insert here.
4th line high energy. Mattais bang and crash at 2.125M...would think organization would not be paying a 4th liner that much. Therefore players stated.
Guess we differ on eye test, stats, and reading between the lines...though it has been a long enough wait that the organization has had this many options at depth roles. How sweet it is.


Points are not the only stat. Go look up Scheifele's and wheeler's shooting % during there time together. Its much higher than their averages. They also don't have as good of defensive numbers. So use wheeler and Little in the hard minutes and yet Scheifele Ehlers and Laine run wild. As far as the 3rd line goes Stafford and Matthias score a ton for even strengh minutes played. They also have the same weakness they don't push play. They are linemate dependent for that so putting them together would not be good for either of them. And opinions are great but far to often ( see the ducks defensive depth) the coaches play the wrong players. So if I was a jets fan and the jets shelfed all their young talent for players like thorburn, lowry and Copp they are really hurting what could be a team strength which would be skill everywhere.
Sep. 7, 2016 at 11:49 p.m.
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JrGM you would play your developing talent at the NHL level for 5 to 10 min per game on a 4th line instead of 22 min in the AHL. Agree with your assessment of Matthias and Stafford not being on the same line of which they were not. Little is more structured in the defensive end then Scheifele. Ehlers can create though needs more work in the defensive zone coverage. Laine, Finland players usually play more of a structured game though time will tell. Your line combinations are very contrasting and Unbalanced I would put my best line against your second line any day.
Sep. 8, 2016 at 8:27 a.m.
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JrGM you would play your developing talent at the NHL level for 5 to 10 min per game on a 4th line instead of 22 min in the AHL. Agree with your assessment of Matthias and Stafford not being on the same line of which they were not. Little is more structured in the defensive end then Scheifele. Ehlers can create though needs more work in the defensive zone coverage. Laine, Finland players usually play more of a structured game though time will tell. Your line combinations are very contrasting and Unbalanced I would put my best line against your second line any day.


I don't view hockey like most. I don't pay attention to what other teams will do. Also go watch all the pens playoff game. That team did not defend well at all at least not in the traditional sense. What they did do well is defend very very little. Their whole structure was to avoid defending. Ehlers last last didn't defend much. He is very good at getting out of his zone and into offense. So do a care that he can't defend is his zone for 20-30 seconds? No because he would be put in that situation very very rarely. The players the jets have are setting up to build a team like the pens and hawks. Teams build of attacking not defending. These teams won because of offense there ability to not play in the zone and if you don't play in your zone do you need to be great defender? Nope you don't. Why try to change a player use there strengths. Jets strengths are they can push play up the ice from their defense out. Lots of skill and speed. Make teams defend against you focus on transition to offense and avoiding defending at all costs. Again there is lots of ways to view hockey this is how I view it now with all the chances we have seen to the game the last 8 years.
Sep. 8, 2016 at 2:02 p.m.
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You are talking all rhetoric. I showed you data of the offence ability of Wheeler and Scheifele together. You deny this and then later say all about pushing offence??? I don't follow your thoughts because you are defending the original quote. So I will close with this. The BEST LINES are <60% possession. Meaning 40+% of the time they are playing without the puck. That is defending. You refer to Penguins as your proof. Penguins wins when they put Crosby, Malkin, Kessel together or in combinations not well. Instead they spread the offence through there lines so teams can not expose any one line. Because of depth scoring they preservere and wins begin to pile up because of consistency. Not by stacking anyone line. Why is this important. Because odds are only 50% of your games you get last change. The game within the game. JrGM...RookieCoach.
Sep. 8, 2016 at 5:10 p.m.
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You are talking all rhetoric. I showed you data of the offence ability of Wheeler and Scheifele together. You deny this and then later say all about pushing offence??? I don't follow your thoughts because you are defending the original quote. So I will close with this. The BEST LINES are <60% possession. Meaning 40+% of the time they are playing without the puck. That is defending. You refer to Penguins as your proof. Penguins wins when they put Crosby, Malkin, Kessel together or in combinations not well. Instead they spread the offence through there lines so teams can not expose any one line. Because of depth scoring they preservere and wins begin to pile up because of consistency. Not by stacking anyone line. Why is this important. Because odds are only 50% of your games you get last change. The game within the game. JrGM...RookieCoach.


Go look at Scheifele and Wheelers possession numbers together. They are good but both show better numbers with different line mates. Would you like numbers on that? They did they produce major offense... an unsustainable shooting %. Pens spread out scoring which is what I want to do. Moving Scheifele and Wheeler away from each other (jets 2 best scorers) is speading out scoring. Lots of coaches don't match lines anymore. They are more concern with zone starts and zone deployment. Again if you want numbers I'm more than ok to share some. Your possession back down is also wrong. Don't confuse possession with shot matrix. They are different things. Teams that win control more of the shot attempts. With has a correlation to possession but we aren't sure of that number yet.
 
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