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Created by: Ekaansh
Initial Creation Date: Aug 29, 2020
Published: Aug 29, 2020 at 11:47
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Team Explanation
Leafs get Marcus Foligno, a enforcer who can also contribute a bit offensively and is an indimidating presence, something this team desperately needs.

Leafs also get Jared Spurgeon, a great all around defenseman who can contribute a lot offensively and play amazing defense.

Leafs get Georgiev, a replacement goalie for andersen. Georgiev and Campbell can split starts throughout the season, which ensures both are rested and don't have a huge workload.

Leafs sign Joe Thornton, he can provide a veteran presence and still contribute offensively.

Leafs resign Jason Spezza, y'all know why.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya3$2,125,000
Georgiev, Alexandar3$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Thornton, Joe2$1,500,000
Spezza, Jason2$825,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Foligno, Marcus
  2. Spurgeon, Jared
  3. 2020 4th round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Andersen, Frederik
  3. 2020 1st round pick (PIT)
TOR
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 7th round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Dermott, Travis [RFA Rights]
  3. 2020 4th round pick (VGK)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
TOR
TOR
MIN
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
NYR
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
21$81,500,000$80,997,417$0$400,000$502,583

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$2,125,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
$821,667
LW
RFA - 3
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
$2,875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Thornton, Joe
$1,500,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$825,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
Georgiev, Alexandar
$3,500,000
G
RFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD
RFA - 2
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 2

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Matthews, A.
Tavares, J.
Marner, M.
Rielly, M.
Spurgeon, J.
Power Play 2
Robertson, N.
Kerfoot, A.
Barabanov, A.
Sandin, R.
Muzzin, J.
Penalty Kill 1
Kerfoot, A.
Hyman, Z.
Muzzin, J.
Spurgeon, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Marner, M.
Spezza, J.
Rielly, M.
Holl, J.

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Aug 29, 2020 at 11:50
#1
Pre-Med Pain.
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How do they get worse...
Aug 29, 2020 at 11:50
#2
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Ekaansh_m80
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How lol
Aug 29, 2020 at 11:54
#3
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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It's a good attempt at the Leafs roster. But I really don't want Spurgeon for 7.5m X 7 yr. Assuming Nylander and Spurgeon are about even in a trade, that is way too much to give up for one year of Foligno.
Aug 29, 2020 at 11:57
#4
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Quoting: palhal
It's a good attempt at the Leafs roster. But I really don't want Spurgeon for 7.5m X 7 yr. Assuming Nylander and Spurgeon are about even in a trade, that is way too much to give up for one year of Foligno.


Spurgeon for nylander is a super interesting idea for both teams
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Aug 29, 2020 at 12:22
#5
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Ok, so here's my problem with this trade idea.

Kudos for thinking outside the box on this one, that said.

Other than the fact Spurgeon has a full NMC, the Wild will be looking for a new captain post Koivu.

Our two leading candidates for the C next year?

Marcus Foligno and Jared Spurgeon.

Now, can anyone tell me why I have a problem with this?
Aug 29, 2020 at 12:24
#6
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Spurgeon for nylander is a super interesting idea for both teams


Disagree. Spurgeon for Nylander is a landslide win for Minnesota and Dubas should be shot into the Atlantic using a cannon if he makes such a stupid swap
Aug 29, 2020 at 12:26
#7
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Quoting: I4evrblue
Disagree. Spurgeon for Nylander is a landslide win for Minnesota and Dubas should be shot into the Atlantic using a cannon if he makes such a stupid swap


Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
Aug 29, 2020 at 12:27
#8
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Quoting: RazWild
Ok, so here's my problem with this trade idea.

Kudos for thinking outside the box on this one, that said.

Other than the fact Spurgeon has a full NMC, the Wild will be looking for a new captain post Koivu.

Our two leading candidates for the C next year?

Marcus Foligno and Jared Spurgeon.

Now, can anyone tell me why I have a problem with this?


I can only assume that you have a problem with this because this is capfriendly, where everybody vastly understates the value of all Leafs players based on nothing more than their being Leafs.
Aug 29, 2020 at 12:32
#9
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.


Indeed.
Just weird to see so many ACGMs made where fans of other teams are frustrated with Leaf fans for trades that are lopsided and then seeing this presented like its fair lol
Aug 29, 2020 at 12:35
#10
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Quoting: I4evrblue
Indeed.
Just weird to see so many ACGMs made where fans of other teams are frustrated with Leaf fans for trades that are lopsided and then seeing this presented like its fair lol


The proposed trade is of course not fair. A leafs fan commented on nylander and spurgeon being about even and I commented that the idea was super interesting, then you said some words.
Aug 29, 2020 at 12:36
#11
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Quoting: I4evrblue
I can only assume that you have a problem with this because this is capfriendly, where everybody vastly understates the value of all Leafs players based on nothing more than their being Leafs.


Really? That's your take away from that? Leafs fans overrate their players at the same rate if not more than everyone else for all players not named Marner or Mathews.

I like Nylander but he's not that good. The value being represented here in the trade is absolutely fair. I have no issues with it at all. My issue with the trade since you can't seem to want to bother reading what I posted is that the two leading candidates for our next captain, ie... heart and soul of team kind of guys, are both getting traded here.

How is that not obvious?
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Aug 29, 2020 at 12:47
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
The proposed trade is of course not fair. A leafs fan commented on nylander and spurgeon being about even and I commented that the idea was super interesting, then you said some words.


Yes.
Those words, put another way, went something like this:
That is not an interesting trade for the Leafs. Its a terrible idea for the Leafs
Aug 29, 2020 at 12:48
#13
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Quoting: RazWild
Really? That's your take away from that? Leafs fans overrate their players at the same rate if not more than everyone else for all players not named Marner or Mathews.

I like Nylander but he's not that good. The value being represented here in the trade is absolutely fair. I have no issues with it at all. My issue with the trade since you can't seem to want to bother reading what I posted is that the two leading candidates for our next captain, ie... heart and soul of team kind of guys, are both getting traded here.

How is that not obvious?


Oh I know what you were getting at.
The value is so far off in the Wilds favour that you'd have to take it, regardless of leadership.
Also, Foligno will never be captain there or anywhere.
Aug 29, 2020 at 12:50
#14
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Quoting: I4evrblue
Yes.
Those words, put another way, went something like this:
That is not an interesting trade for the Leafs. Its a terrible idea for the Leafs


Respectfully disagree, have a nice day
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Aug 29, 2020 at 12:54
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Respectfully disagree, have a nice day


I will, especially knowing that this management group won't trade a solid, 24 year old, top 6 forward for a 30 year old diminutive defender on a bloated contract.
It's gonna be a great day
 
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