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Following Bergevin entrevue

Created by: CLR
Initial Creation Date: Sep 15, 2020
Published: Sep 15 at 7:58
Team: 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
He said he wants to keep all defenseman.
He also said he is looking for a big forward with talent
He added the player playing the best will play next year (between KK, Suzuki and Domi) at C. So , Domi might be back.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Domi, Max2$5,000,000
Anderson, Josh2$3,000,000
Evans, Jake2$800,000
Mete, Victor2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Edmundson, Joel4$3,500,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Anderson, Josh [RFA Rights]
CBJ
  1. Juulsen, Noah [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
MTL
  1. Chiasson, Alex
EDM
  1. Weal, Jordan
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
MTL
STL
MTL
MTL
ANA
WPG
FLA
MTL
OTT
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
STL
VGK
MTL
OTT
PHI
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
STL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,922,976$0$3,137,500$3,577,024
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 3
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
MTL
Domi, Max
$5,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Anderson, Josh
$3,000,000
RW
UFA - 7
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 1
EDM
Chiasson, Alex
$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 1
MTL
Evans, Jake
$800,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Belzile, Alex
$700,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 6
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Edmundson, Joel
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
MTL
Allen, Jake
$4,350,000
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 2
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
$894,167
LD/RD
RFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
$1,000,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1

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Sep 15 at 8:01
#1
Big Buch Energy
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Danault on the 4th line is such a waste...
Sep 15 at 8:03
#2
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I can't see this getting it done for Anderson. If Jarmo's going to move him for a pick and a prospect, he'll want one who's got multiple years of affordable control, not somebody we have to negotiate with. And $3M is only gonna get you one year of Anderson; his agent has been pretty clear about wanting a long-term deal, and they're unlikely to accept less than a $4M AAV.
Sep 15 at 8:06
#3
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Quoting: buchiegang
Danault on the 4th line is such a waste...


With the talent we have . We roll with 3 2nd line a 1 third line . It’s not a 4th line. Anyway, One of Domi or Danault is probably gone , or Domi moved to wing .
Sep 15 at 8:08
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Quoting: benjgc
I can't see this getting it done for Anderson. If Jarmo's going to move him for a pick and a prospect, he'll want one who's got multiple years of affordable control, not somebody we have to negotiate with. And $3M is only gonna get you one year of Anderson; his agent has been pretty clear about wanting a long-term deal, and they're unlikely to accept less than a $4M AAV.

1 year at 3 m$ fits the bill also. Even 4m$ (just not doing the Chiasson trade and we have the space ). Juulsen won’t be tough to negotiate . Is value is 800 000 $ for one or 2 years. If hes healthy , he is a good player
Sep 15 at 8:10
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Quoting: CLR
1 year at 3 m$ fits the bill also. Even 4m$ (just not doing the Chiasson trade and we have the space ). Juulsen won’t be tough to negotiate . Is value is 800 000 $ for one or 2 years. If hes healthy , he is a good player


You're also ignoring that we've got 10 NHL-caliber D already, and don't have a place in the league to play Juulsen. I'm not sniffing at him, but this deal isn't a fit.
Sep 15 at 8:12
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Quoting: benjgc
You're also ignoring that we've got 10 NHL-caliber D already, and don't have a place in the league to play Juulsen. I'm not sniffing at him, but this deal isn't a fit.


Fine. A 3rd instead ?
Sep 15 at 8:13
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Quoting: CLR
Fine. A 3rd instead ?


Could do the trick.
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Sep 15 at 8:14
#8
Jacob
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Honestly not a fan of the first one for Montreal. Anderson is overrated and idk about his fit in montreal. Juulsen still has low end top 4 potential
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Sep 15 at 8:16
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Quoting: jdawg
Honestly not a fan of the first one for Montreal. Anderson is overrated and idk about his fit in montreal. Juulsen still has low end top 4 potential


This is what I don't get. According to everyone on CF, Anderson is simultaneously (a) overrated and (b) wanted in like 60% of the trades on this site. If he's so overrated, why do fans and real GMs want him coming to their team?
Sep 15 at 8:17
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Quoting: jdawg
Honestly not a fan of the first one for Montreal. Anderson is overrated and idk about his fit in montreal. Juulsen still has low end top 4 potential

Something else could be worked instead of Juulsen like we discussed earlier . We could also aim for other big young player like Virtanen, Tuch
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Sep 15 at 8:18
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Quoting: benjgc
This is what I don't get. According to everyone on CF, Anderson is simultaneously (a) overrated and (b) wanted in like 60% of the trades on this site. If he's so overrated, why do fans and real GMs want him coming to their team?

It’s a classic . And it’s not everybody that value a player equally, which is fine
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Sep 15 at 8:23
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Jacob
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Quoting: benjgc
This is what I don't get. According to everyone on CF, Anderson is simultaneously (a) overrated and (b) wanted in like 60% of the trades on this site. If he's so overrated, why do fans and real GMs want him coming to their team?


Obviously it depends on who you ask.. but 90% of Anderson trades I see are over payments
Sep 15 at 8:26
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bhavikp27
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Quoting: buchiegang
Danault on the 4th line is such a waste...

Quoting: CLR
With the talent we have . We roll with 3 2nd line a 1 third line . It’s not a 4th line. Anyway, One of Domi or Danault is probably gone , or Domi moved to wing .


It won't happen but if it does, Danault will request a trade asap

Quoting: benjgc
You're also ignoring that we've got 10 NHL-caliber D already, and don't have a place in the league to play Juulsen. I'm not sniffing at him, but this deal isn't a fit.


" 10 nhl caliber D "
Sep 15 at 8:26
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Quoting: jdawg
Obviously it depends on who you ask.. but 90% of Anderson trades I see are over payments


Well, considering that the contract he's signed for in this ACGM would cost you a 2nd-round pick on an offer sheet, that has to be considered the floor for any deal. Then you factor in the widespread demand for him, and you can start to see why the price is where it is.
Sep 15 at 8:27
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Quote:

" 10 nhl caliber D "


Jones, Z, Savard, Gavrikov, Nutivaara, Murray, Kukan, Peeke, Harrington, Carlsson. Not saying they're all top-pair guys or anything, but adding Juulsen to that bunch doesn't really move the needle.
Sep 15 at 8:27
#16
Jacob
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Quoting: CLR
Something else could be worked instead of Juulsen like we discussed earlier . We could also aim for other big young player like Virtanen, Tuch


I think virtanen would be an awesome fit in Montreal
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