I Guess Pietrangelo is Possible

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Created by: bunnymcfoo

Team: 2020-21 Vegas Golden Knights

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 25, 2020

Published: Sep. 26, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Look, as a Sharks fan I feel dirty as hell about doing this -and- it's nothing even close to reality, but I wanted to see if I could make the numbers work in any way that even remotely resembles "not absolute crack". As a mortal enemy of the Knights, it's in my best interest if Pietro signs, like, not just not with the Knights but as far away from the Pacific as possible. I'd really like to see him in the Atlantic division - I would LOVE to see him sign with the Panthers, as an example, but the rumors say he wants the Knights. Sigh.

Anyway, this tells me that it's *theoretically* possible for the Knights to get him if the team was prepared to make some *drastic* moves AND he was willing to do 8x7 with a full NMC for, idk, the first five years and a M-NTC with a 10 to 15 team no trade list for the last two years.

I hate that this possibility even exists, no matter how incredibly far-fetched it may be. Please go play in the Eastern conference, Pietro. Maybe go wear crop tops in North Carolina with Joel Edmundson! (I don't care where, just stay out of the Pacific division!)

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Quinney, Gage	3	$775,000
Cousins, Nick	2	$2,000,000
Stephenson, Chandler	1	$1,500,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Dell, Aaron	2	$2,500,000
Pietrangelo, Alex	7	$8,000,000
Lehner, Robin	5	$4,000,000
Del Zotto, Michael	2	$850,000

Trades

VGK

2020 2nd round pick (DAL)

Additional Details:

the 2nd is for Tuch

OTT

Fleury, Marc-André
Tuch, Alex
2020 1st round pick (VGK)
2021 1st round pick (VGK)

Additional Details:

Gonna take a hell of a lot to move Fleury, but I figure that the Sens take this and then buy him out, play him as backup for a year and *then* buy him out, or bury him in the minors.

VGK

Glendening, Luke

DET

Martinez, Alec
2021 2nd round pick (NJD)

Additional Details:

I feel like you're gonna have to pay someone to take that cap hit - he's not bad, by any means, but woof is he expensive

Retained Salary Transactions

Tomas Tatar: $500,000 (9.43%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$81,174,105	$285,772	$850,000	$325,895

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Pacioretty, Max $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Stastny, Paul $6,500,000$6,500,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Stone, Mark $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 7
Marchessault, Jonathan $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Karlsson, William $5,900,000$5,900,000 C M-NTC UFA - 7	Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2
Cousins, Nick $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Roy, Nicolas $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Glendening, Luke $1,800,000$1,800,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 1
Carrier, William $1,400,000$1,400,000 LW UFA - 4	Stephenson, Chandler $1,500,000$1,500,000 C, LW UFA - 4	Reaves, Ryan $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Theodore, Shea $5,200,000$5,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 5	Pietrangelo, Alex $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD UFA - 7	Lehner, Robin $4,000,000$4,000,000 G UFA - 5
McNabb, Brayden $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD UFA - 2	Schmidt, Nate $5,950,000$5,950,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 5	Dell, Aaron $2,500,000$2,500,000 G UFA - 1
Holden, Nick $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD UFA - 2	Whitecloud, Zach $725,000$725,000 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Glass, Cody $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) C, RW RFA - 2
Del Zotto, Michael $850,000$850,000 LD UFA - 1

Sep. 26, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.

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bunnymcfoo

Thread Starter

oh how i suffer

Joined: Feb. 2019

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Quoting: DillBaley

Here's something helpful: this is quite possibly the WORST AGM I've seen yet, and is tantamount to blatant trolling. Nobody in their right mind actually thinks MAF, who is more than capable as a 1b, would take Tuch and 2 1sts to move the last 2 years of his contract or that MAF should be buried in the minor league.

As I have said multiple times including in the text of the AGM, this isn't anything close to the reality of what these trades would actually look like. I wasn't interested in getting the returns or terms accurate, I was interested in seeing if I could make the numbers work - ie, if I could move enough contracts to give the Knights sufficient cap space to sign Pietrangelo. If you think that I was trolling because I somehow insulted MAF by overestimating what it would take to move him (???), then hey, there's a button to report that and you should by all means take advantage of it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Sep. 26, 2020 at 4:40 p.m.

#27

BStinson

Joined: May 2020

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Quoting: bunnymcfoo

You gave a fair warning in both the team description and multiple comments.

I could see VGK packaging a first to rid themselves of MAF and I’d look at moving Marchy before Tuch. Detroit I think would take advantage of taking on MAF and Martinez (whom I don’t see as a dump but you don’t either). The cap difference between Marchy and Tuch is minimal savings but I think if Pierrangelo were to structure his deal with an NMC and heavy front load the contract and I’d think he’d bite at 8M (since no state tax and property is cheap in Vegas).

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Oct. 11, 2020 at 1:35 a.m.

#28

bunnymcfoo

Thread Starter

oh how i suffer

Joined: Feb. 2019

Posts: 852

Likes: 332

Quoting: Rusty_Bottles

Roseville. I knew it!

Look, it's been several days now and I just have to tell you that I am still deeply irritated that Dylan Peterson was drafted by the Blues. The kid is from Roseville and models his game on Thornton - in a perfect world he will play 4 years at BU, flip St Louis the bird, and come play in San Jose.

Oct. 11, 2020 at 3:07 a.m.

#29

Rusty_Bottles

OC Guinness Boys

Joined: Jun. 2017

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Edited Oct. 11, 2020 at 7:04 a.m.

Quoting: bunnymcfoo

Yo Roseville! I know how you feel. I was very pleased that Zegras fell to 9 in last year’s draft but I was rooting hard to somehow get Cam York on his hometown team.

Just from a quick search though, Peterson went 86 OA. Sharks had a pick at 76... (?)

Oct. 11, 2020 at 7:25 p.m.

#30

bunnymcfoo

Thread Starter

oh how i suffer

Joined: Feb. 2019

Posts: 852

Likes: 332

Quoting: Rusty_Bottles

Yeah, if I recall correctly we traded up to get to Daniil Gushchin - which I want to be very clear I'm okay with! - but I am smarting that we weren't somehow able to get both of them because I am nothing if not a greedy **** who hates the Blues.

Y'all look like you had a damn fine draft this year. Kudos to Murray! Jacob Perreault is absolutely going to be a stud and I do NOT look forward to playing against him in the future.

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